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Upgrade Warnings - multiple removes [gimp, etc. beause of libgtk2.0 upgrade]

se7en - 22.03.2011, 01:18
Post subject: multiple removes [gimp, etc. beause of libgtk2.0 upgrade]
todays du!
The following packages will be REMOVED:
deskbar-applet deskbar-plugins-strigi gimp gimp-gmic gimp-plugin-registry gimp-resynthesizer gimp-ufraw handbrake-gtk kaffeine libbonoboui2-0 libgail18 libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomeui-0 libpanel-applet2-0
librsvg2-2 libwebkit-1.0-2 libxine1-xvdr python-gnome2 python-gnomeapplet
finotti - 22.03.2011, 02:13
Post subject: RE: multiple removes
Similar results here:

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The following packages will be REMOVED:
  audacious emacs23 empathy gimp gimp-cbmplugs gimp-plugin-registry gnome-icon-theme grip gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gtk2-engines-pixbuf
  handbrake-gtk kaffeine libbonoboui2-0 libgail18 libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomeui-0 libgstfarsight0.10-0 librsvg2-common
  libtelepathy-farsight0 libwebkit-1.0-2 libxine1-xvdr
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  emacs23-lucid libatk1.0-data libqt4-declarative libyajl1
The following packages have been kept back:
  libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin
The following packages will be upgraded:
  amarok amarok-common amarok-utils bluetooth bluez bluez-pcmcia-support busybox groff-base gv ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk insserv
  libatk1.0-0 libbluetooth3 libdebian-installer-extra4 libdebian-installer4 libeet1 libgl1-nvidia-alternatives libgl1-nvidia-glx
  libglx-nvidia-alternatives libgssapi-krb5-2 libgtk2.0-common libk5crypto3 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libm17n-0 libmtp8 libnm-glib2
  libnm-util1 libpipeline1 libqt4-assistant libqt4-core libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer libqt4-gui libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl
  libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-webkit
  libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtassistantclient4 libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libraptor2-0 librasqal3 libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc
  libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-impress libreoffice-kde libreoffice-l10n-pt-br
  libreoffice-math libreoffice-pdfimport libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-writer libsgutils2-2 libtiff-tools libtiff4 libvlc5
  libvlccore4 libxslt1.1 linux-libc-dev memtest86+ mkvtoolnix mkvtoolnix-gui nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-kernel-source
  nvidia-vdpau-driver nvidia-vdpau-driver-ia32 openssh-client openssh-server pm-utils python python-dev python-minimal python-qt4
  python-qt4-dbus qemu-keymaps qemu-utils squashfs-tools strace ttf-opensymbol uno-libs3 ure vlc vlc-data vlc-nox wine
101 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 21 to remove and 2 not upgraded.


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root@debian[/home/finotti]# infobash -v3
Host/Kernel/OS  "debian" running Linux 2.6.38-0.towo.2-frickel-amd64 x86_64 [ aptosid 2010-02 Κῆρες - kde-full - (201009132215) ]
CPU Info        2x Intel Core2 Duo E8400 @ 6144 KB cache flags( sse3 ht nx lm vmx ) clocked at [ 2999.584 MHz ]                           
Videocard       nVidia G86 [GeForce 8500 GT]  X.Org 1.9.4.901  [ 1280x1024@50.0hz ]                                                       
Network cards   nVidia MCP55                                                                                                               
                nVidia MCP55                                                                                                               
Processes 153 | Uptime 16:54 | Memory 1926.5/8005.4MB | HDD WDC WD1500ADFD-0,ST31000528AS,WDC WD1001FALS-0,WDC WD10EALS-00Z Size 3150GB (39%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce 8500 GT/PCI/SSE2 | GLX Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 270.26 | Client Shell | Infobash v3.35


I guess we just need to wait a little until things settle...

Luis
merlyn - 22.03.2011, 04:04
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Perhaps it has something to do with the announcement Devil posted here?

In addition to Devil's post I recall reading in an rss feed that a good deal of work is being done to improve efficiency and reliabilty of the database used on the FTP Master and other maintenance tasks.

If memory serves me correctly it was on Planet Debian.

Cheers.
muchan - 22.03.2011, 08:12
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This is caused by the upgrade of libgtk2.0-0 (and relative packages).
On my amd64, I can proceed d-u without removing anything by holding this.
# echo libgtk2.0-0 hold | dpkg --set-selections

but probably the dependent packages will catch up in a few days so better wait for some days.

{ changed the thread title, adding [gimp, etc. because of libgtk2.0 update] }
piper - 22.03.2011, 21:52
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libgtk2.24.3-1~sid1 is in incoming

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Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  console-terminus desktop-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad kaffeine libgail18 librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common libwebkit-1.0-2 libxine1-xvdr miro python-webkit
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  console-setup-linux libatk1.0-data libbluray0 linux-headers-2.6.38-0.slh.6-aptosid-686 linux-image-2.6.38-0.slh.6-aptosid-686
The following packages have been kept back:
  libgtk2.0-0
The following packages will be upgraded:
  amarok amarok-common amarok-utils bluetooth bluez bluez-pcmcia-support console-setup dictionaries-common keyboard-configuration libatk1.0-0
  libbluetooth3 libeet1 libgtk2.0-common libraptor2-0 libvlc5 libvlccore4 linux-headers-2.6-aptosid-686 linux-image-2.6-aptosid-686 memtest86+
  mozilla-plugin-vlc **removed** python python-apt python-apt-common python-minimal strace vlc vlc-data vlc-nox
29 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 11 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 85.5 MB of archives.
After this operation, 108 MB of additional disk space will be used.

dibl - 22.03.2011, 23:51
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Ehhhh --- looks like some of us are still waiting patiently:


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root@aptosidbox:/home/don# apt-get dist-upgrade -d
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  cheese console-terminus emesene gimp gnome-icon-theme gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad kaffeine kde-config-phonon-xine
  libcheese-gtk18 libgail18 libgstfarsight0.10-0 librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common libwebkit-1.0-2 libxine1-xvdr padevchooser paman
  paprefs pavumeter python-farsight python-papyon python-webkit
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  console-setup-linux libatk1.0-data libntfs-3g80 libyajl1 linux-headers-2.6.38-0.slh.6-aptosid-amd64
  linux-image-2.6.38-0.slh.6-aptosid-amd64
The following packages have been kept back:
  libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin

mntaler - 23.03.2011, 01:50
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same here:

      Code:
root@x60:/home/martin# apt-get dist-upgrade -d
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  aterm backintime-gnome console-terminus emacs23 evince gimp gnome-icon-theme
  gnome-power-manager gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gwget hamster-applet
  libafterimage0 libbonoboui2-0 libgail18 libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomeui-0
  libmagickcore2 libmagickwand2 libpanel-applet2-0 librsvg2-common
  libwebkit-1.0-2 minitube python-gnome2 python-gnomeapplet rxvt-unicode
  vim-gnome
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  console-setup-linux emacs23-lucid libatk1.0-data libbluray0
  linux-headers-2.6.38-0.slh.6-aptosid-686 linux-image-2.6.38-0.slh.6-aptosid-686
  xaw3dg
The following packages have been kept back:
  libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin



and waiting Razz
arl - 23.03.2011, 02:24
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First the "nv" driver goes away so now I get the VGA driver with 1280X1024 resolution instead of 1920x1080 since the nouveau driver doesn't load. I just did dist-upgrade hoping that problem may have been fixed. Now, because of the missing libraries, I can't use gimp or gramps, which were my two most used applications. Also, the small screen is still there. Time to go back to Ubuntu?

arl
finotti - 23.03.2011, 02:46
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      arl wrote:

Time to go back to Ubuntu?
arl


Not to seem rude, but perhaps it is... I don't think aptosid is for everyone. But, maybe you could try other alternatives. Debian stable is great (things don't break!) if you don't mind outdated packages.

I've heard good things about Mint too.

I hope you find a perfect distro for you. If not, try to balance the pros and cons of each....
dibl - 23.03.2011, 03:12
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      arl wrote:


Time to go back to Ubuntu?



YES! Please do.
natelwin - 23.03.2011, 06:30
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      arl wrote:
Time to go back to Ubuntu?


I used to demand that the devs compensate me with a Rickshaw (complete with puller) to compensate me for my dist-upgrade woes. Kind of like in this clip here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaMerHN2HSk

But -- as they never took me up on the offer -- I decided that I had better learn more about the internal functioning of debian packaging and overall range of things that could happen during a dist-upgrade.

While doing so, I decided to always make a backup first in case something untoward happened; in which case I could just revert to the last snapshot.

That's worked very well so far -- although I must confess that I would *rather* have the Rickshaw; and the appropriate clothing befitting a man of my station to go with it of course. Like these cool pith helmets:

http://thefedorachronicles.com/vintaget ... index.html

Yep, I'd be livin' the Dream, then...
muchan - 23.03.2011, 08:32
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Please stay on topic.
Talking about distro choice does not belong to Upgrade warnings forum.
deusdara - 23.03.2011, 11:30
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Hi

today dist-upgrade

The following packages will be REMOVED:
console-terminus kaffeine libxinei-xvdr

But dist-upgrade worked fine.

After dist-grade I have reinstalled kaffeine.

      Quote:
Time to go back to Ubuntu?


If you like Ubuntu dont be afraid go ahead.
se7en - 23.03.2011, 12:40
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Only one package to Remove left.

The following packages will be REMOVED:
console-terminus
blackhole - 23.03.2011, 12:52
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But this is not a problem since it conflicts with the new package console-setup-linux.
DeepDayze - 23.03.2011, 13:49
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      blackhole wrote:
But this is not a problem since it conflicts with the new package console-setup-linux.


I believe it now has the console-terminus font included so the console-terminus package can go. I had that package installed and after a restart my console's font did not change.
mheyes - 23.03.2011, 15:08
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      arl wrote:
Time to go back to Ubuntu?

arl


Well I got bit too on Monday, but it was my fault. I didn't read what was going to be removed. Then it got worse. Much worse. So I just reinstalled, restored my data, and learned a lesson.

Same thing can happen in any Debian / Debian-based system. Don't see the magic in Ubuntu.
arl - 23.03.2011, 16:12
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Please stay on topic.
Talking about distro choice does not belong to Upgrade warnings forum.

Sorry for my frustration rant. Perhaps this is the wrong forum; however, I think it is important to understand what to do when dist-upgrades go bad. Let me explain. I have used many versions of Linux - Slackware, Red Hat, Suse, Ubuntu, Debian, Sidux, Aptosid - Debian is too far out of date for applications that are changing rapidly such as Gramps, which uses the latest Python and its libraries. Ubuntu is better but still has a problem because I would have had to install: a whole new version (after 8.0), all the applications, and find bug workarounds for some apps just to keep using the latest Gramps. Sidux and Aptosid had up-to-date libraries and worked exceedingly well with Gramps until Aptosid started loosing modules and libraries recently.

I really like Aptosid and have been trying to figure out how to keep using it and avoid full installs of operating systems. Although I know very little about Raid, I am thinking that getting another hard disk and using it with raid to keep a backup image of the whole disk on which Aptosid resides. That way I may be able to go back to my previous setup, when something goes wrong, and use the backup until the dist-upgrade is fixed. I think raid is for recovering from disk failure, but it may also work for the application described above. Other suggestions?

arl
ghstryder - 23.03.2011, 16:19
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      arl wrote:
Please stay on topic.
Talking about distro choice does not belong to Upgrade warnings forum.

Sorry for my frustration rant. Perhaps this is the wrong forum; however, I think it is important to understand what to do when dist-upgrades go bad. Let me explain. I have used many versions of Linux - Slackware, Red Hat, Suse, Ubuntu, Debian, Sidux, Aptosid...

arl

Uh, right.
muchan - 23.03.2011, 18:15
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      arl wrote:

however, I think it is important to understand what to do when dist-upgrades go bad.


Simple. Wait! and not upgrade the system until the problem is solved,
or until the proper solution is provided. This forum is for that purpose.

and... always check if the output of apt-get has "The following packages will be REMOVED:"
and if you see it, say No, don't do dist-upgrade blindly, and check what's going on.

and... read the aptosid manual carefully, esp.
http://manual.aptosid.com/en/sys-admin- ... pt-upgrade
      Quote:

If the whole system is to be upgraded this is achieved through a dist-upgrade. You should always check Current Warnings on the aptosid main web site, and check the warnings against the packages that your system wants to dist-upgrade.

oddball - 24.03.2011, 16:47
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Seem like finally the issue with libgtk2.0-0 (and relative packages) is gone. Just did a d-u and nothing was removed. Smile
sx9 - 24.03.2011, 17:22
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Here too. No problems during d-u (console-setup-linux only replaces console-terminus)
      Code:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  console-terminus
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  console-setup-linux libatk1.0-data libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 liblash3 libntfs-3g80
  libtextcat-data libtextcat0 linux-headers-2.6.38-1.slh.2-aptosid-686
  linux-image-2.6.38-1.slh.2-aptosid-686
The following packages have been kept back:
  nautilus-dropbox wine
The following packages will be upgraded:
  amarok amarok-common amarok-dbg amarok-utils apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork
  apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common apt apt-utils binfmt-support binutils
  binutils-multiarch bluetooth bluez bluez-cups bluez-pcmcia-support bluez-utils
  busybox console-setup cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-dbg cups-ppdc
  debootstrap deborphan dictionaries-common docvert docvert-libreoffice
  firmware-linux-free gespeaker git git-core git-man groff-base grub-common grub-pc
  grub2 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-dbg gtk2-engines-pixbuf
  hydrogen inkscape insserv keyboard-configuration libapache2-mod-php5 libatk1.0-0
  libaudio-scan-perl libbluetooth3 libchi-perl libcln6 libcups2 libcupscgi1
  libcupsdriver1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 libcv2.1 libcvaux2.1
  libdatetime-timezone-perl libdebian-installer-extra4 libdebian-installer4 libenca0
  libenchant1c2a libept1 libgail18 libgmp10 libgmpxx4ldbl libgnomevfs2-0
  libgnomevfs2-common libgssapi-krb5-2 libgstreamer0.10-0 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin
  libgtk2.0-common libhighgui2.1 libhtml-tableextract-perl libhtml-template-perl
  libk5crypto3 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 liblog-dispatch-perl libm17n-0 libmtp8
  libpci3 libpipeline1 libplot2c2 libportaudio2 libqt4-assistant libqt4-dbg
  libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative libqt4-designer libqt4-dev libqt4-help
  libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-opengl-dev libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script
  libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg
  libqt4-test libqt4-webkit libqt4-webkit-dbg libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns
  libqt4-xmlpatterns-dbg libqtassistantclient4 libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libraptor2-0
  librasqal3 libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc
  libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-dbg libreoffice-draw
  libreoffice-emailmerge libreoffice-filter-binfilter libreoffice-filter-mobiledev
  libreoffice-gcj libreoffice-help-de libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-impress
  libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-kde libreoffice-l10n-de libreoffice-l10n-en-gb
  libreoffice-math libreoffice-mysql-connector libreoffice-officebean
  libreoffice-ogltrans libreoffice-pdfimport libreoffice-presentation-minimizer
  libreoffice-presenter-console libreoffice-report-builder
  libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-style-oxygen
  libreoffice-wiki-publisher libreoffice-writer libreoffice-writer2latex
  libreoffice-writer2xhtml librsvg2-2 librsvg2-bin librsvg2-common libsasl2-2
  libsasl2-modules libsgutils2-2 libsocket-getaddrinfo-perl libsoprano4 libtiff-tools
  libtiff4 libvlc5 libvlccore4 libwmf-bin libwmf0.2-7 libxslt1.1
  linux-headers-2.6-aptosid-686 linux-image-2.6-aptosid-686 linux-libc-dev memtest86+
  mozilla-libreoffice mozilla-plugin-vlc ntfs-3g openssh-client openssh-server
  pciutils php5 php5-cli php5-common php5-curl php5-gd php5-gmp php5-ldap php5-mysql
  php5-tidy php5-xsl pm-utils pypar2 python python-apt python-apt-common
  python-configobj python-minimal python-pkg-resources python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus
  python-serial python-uno qemu qemu-keymaps qemu-system qemu-user qemu-utils
  qt4-designer qt4-qmake smartmontools soprano-daemon squashfs-tools strace
  tex-common ttf-opensymbol uno-libs3 uno-libs3-dbg unp ure ure-dbg usb-modeswitch
  usb-modeswitch-data vlc vlc-data vlc-dbg vlc-nox vlc-plugin-ggi vlc-plugin-jack
  vlc-plugin-pulse vlc-plugin-sdl vlc-plugin-svg vlc-plugin-svgalib vlc-plugin-zvbi
  w3c-markup-validator w3c-sgml-lib winff wpg2odg xsltproc xul-ext-noscript
237 upgraded, 9 newly installed, 1 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 667 MB/686 MB of archives.
After this operation, 169 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

arl - 24.03.2011, 18:56
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      Quote:
Simple. Wait! and not upgrade the system until the problem is solved,
or until the proper solution is provided. This forum is for that purpose.


Thank you. Good information for me.

      Quote:
This sentence gave me an idea. I made a script to update, upgrade and then dist-upgrade only if it seems ok. Here it is
:

I like this. I need reminders.

---

Like others, I did a new dist-upgrade, and was able to reinstall the affected applications after that.
DeepDayze - 24.03.2011, 19:23
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Looks like nothing got removed here on 32 bits so hopefully this is now solved for everyone Smile
muchan - 24.03.2011, 19:43
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{ poulpillusion's post about script, and some responses here are split to other thread, and put into "User scripts & Dragons" forum.
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... amp;t=1017
I don't like to do too much moderation, but the script contains error of doing "apt-get upgrade",
and it even before the warning is done.
I hope readers won't use this version of script until properly corrected... }
poulpillusion - 24.03.2011, 21:35
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I missed the "do not apt-get upgrade" warning... sorry.

I fixed the script... maybe you will want to review it before I dare to put it back in this thread Wink

The only remaining package that would be removed here is :

      Quote:
The following packages will be REMOVED:
console-terminus

DonKult - 24.03.2011, 22:19
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      poulpillusion wrote:
The only remaining package that would be removed here is :

      Quote:
The following packages will be REMOVED:
console-terminus


Thats fine. It is replaced by a new one (console-setup and kernel-specific friends) so let it go. Smile
CaesarTjalbo - 04.04.2011, 10:09
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      muchan wrote:
I don't like to do too much moderation
No moderation would be better, ideally we wouldn't need moderators at all. It's not a perfect world however.

Seems like a good example of adequate moderation: split, link, announcement & justification. Us humble users can't ask for more: thank you.
muchan - 05.04.2011, 09:03
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for new (same?) problem after April 2011, please post to the thread
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... amp;t=1086
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