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Upgrade Warnings - [SOLVED] Watch out, kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded

bfree - 27.05.2011, 00:30
Post subject: [SOLVED] Watch out, kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded
It seems kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded now. Pay close attention to what apt says about any attempts to dist-upgrade to make sure it is not going to remove anything important to you.

It's not expected to cause any problems except for "incomplete" mirror states (upload appears to be amd64, so i386 might suffer for up to a day or so).
bfree - 27.05.2011, 05:51
Post subject: RE: Watch out, kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded
The first mirror sync bringing kde 4.6.3 to sid has finally arrived and at least kde-lite amd64 systems seem to be sanely upgradable. I suspect i386 systems now need to hold off on any dist-upgrades until it catches up.

kdm spat out a message telling me my "saved session type 'kde' is not valid any more" but don't panic if you see that, you can just pick "kde plasma workspace" (or whatever it was called exactly) from the session menu.

kappfinder and libakonadiprivate1 were the only relevant packages which were removed (I let ntfsprogs go also but that's not kde related).

You might want to use the systemsettings tool to pick a new desktop theme once you login. All of the 4 default themes I had available were fine.

This install I tested it on is a very recent kde-lite install though with virtually no extra kde applications installed, I'd still strongly advise everyone to pay close attention to what apt wants to do with their system before proceeding.
devil - 27.05.2011, 07:34
Post subject: RE: Watch out, kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded
at this moment the only thing i see giving errors is kde-l10n, because kde-l10n 4.6.3 is not uploaded yet.

greetz
devil
hubi - 27.05.2011, 08:22
Post subject: RE: Watch out, kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded
Puh. And I thought the S in Sid represented "stable" recently Wink
Santa - 27.05.2011, 09:01
Post subject: Re: Watch out, kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded
      bfree wrote:
It seems kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded now. Pay close attention to what apt says about any attempts to dist-upgrade to make sure it is not going to remove anything important to you.


Yes.

      bfree wrote:

It's not expected to cause any problems except for "incomplete" mirror states (upload appears to be amd64, so i386 might suffer for up to a day or so).


Yes.

      devil wrote:

at this moment the only thing i see giving errors is kde-l10n, because kde-l10n 4.6.3 is not uploaded yet.


Same here. Problably will be 'fixed' in the next mirror update, since src:kde-l10n was accepted in the archive a few hours ago.

Also, you all may want to read: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2011 ... 00034.html
slam - 27.05.2011, 09:18
Post subject: Re: Watch out, kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded
      Santa wrote:
      bfree wrote:
It seems kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded now. Pay close attention to what apt says about any attempts to dist-upgrade to make sure it is not going to remove anything important to you.


Yes.

      bfree wrote:

It's not expected to cause any problems except for "incomplete" mirror states (upload appears to be amd64, so i386 might suffer for up to a day or so).


Yes.

      devil wrote:

at this moment the only thing i see giving errors is kde-l10n, because kde-l10n 4.6.3 is not uploaded yet.


Same here. Problably will be 'fixed' in the next mirror update, since src:kde-l10n was accepted in the archive a few hours ago.

Also, you all may want to read: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2011 ... 00034.html

Thanks for taking your time to keep us informed over here - and big thanks for the hard work on KDE. Smile
Greetings,
Chris
dibl - 27.05.2011, 11:32
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I just finished upgrading 3 systems. Two of them had the KDE 4.6.2 from experimental-snapshots. On those two, I had modified /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc to fix a shutdown issue, and so there was a debconf screen to ask whether I want it replaced with the new kdmrc. I chose the "maintainer's version", and all seems fine -- they shut down correctly from the GUI. I poked around a bit with dolphin and kate and konsole -- everything seems to be in good shape.

So, success! Smile
ghstryder - 27.05.2011, 11:46
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The Debian/KDE list post in that link contained this gem as well:
      Quote:
I'm attaching the results, note how apt-get dist-upgrade comes up
with a right solution while with aptitude I had to answer 'n' several times to
get something which looks like acceptable (that kde-l10n-* packages were removed
in 4.6 iirc).

Nice work, apt folks.
slh - 27.05.2011, 13:19
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Be aware that upower, udisks and polkit-kde-1 might need to be installed explicitly (the first two should be handled by hard dependencies, but polkit-kde-1 likely doesn't get pulled in by default).
DeepDayze - 27.05.2011, 14:02
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KDE upgrade worked fine from here as I had KDE 4.6.2 from experimental-snapshots installed as well. Looks like the close tab bug in konsole's fixed now too I noticed
hightime - 27.05.2011, 14:23
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Upgrade went OK, but there are a couple of glitches.
The text on the my clock widget changed to black. It is barely visible only because there is some lighter color shadows. The panel has the same problem. The widgets have options to change the text color, but I can't find any way to change the color of text on the panel. (If it's in Panel Settings I can't see it because everything is black on black).
Same problem on the logout dialog. You can see the icons, but the text is unreadable.

This is on 64-bit.
bfree - 27.05.2011, 14:29
Post subject: Re: RE: Watch out, kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded
hightime
      bfree wrote:

You might want to use the systemsettings tool to pick a new desktop theme once you login. All of the 4 default themes I had available were fine.

Sorry, I probably should have made clear why you might want to pick a new theme.
hightime - 27.05.2011, 15:17
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Watch out, kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded
      bfree wrote:
hightime
      bfree wrote:

You might want to use the systemsettings tool to pick a new desktop theme once you login. All of the 4 default themes I had available were fine.

Sorry, I probably should have made clear why you might want to pick a new theme.

I had done that. Also had to re-set splash screen and so on, but it didn't fix the problem. Now, however, after selecting a different theme and then re-selecting oxygen everything is OK again. It just didn't 'take' the first time.
snvv - 27.05.2011, 17:37
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I upgraded a 32bit system. So far so good Smile
krisbee - 27.05.2011, 18:15
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Today's d-u with kde 4.6.3 etc. on a 64bit install has left me with a power management problem.

A KDE error flashes up on the splash screen after user login.

Power managment fails to install as "no valid power management backend plugin" can be found.

I've lost track of what's going these days, Hal is still installed on my system but doesn't run. I think I need upower, but upower is not installable.

Unless I'm mistaken, it depends on a broken package:

      Code:

upower : Depends: libimobiledevice2 (>= 0.9.7) but it is not installable
E: Broken packages


Otherwise the update of KDE seems OK.
DeepDayze - 27.05.2011, 18:31
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      krisbee wrote:
Today's d-u with kde 4.6.3 etc. on a 64bit install has left me with a power management problem.

A KDE error flashes up on the splash screen after user login.

Power managment fails to install as "no valid power management backend plugin" can be found.

I've lost track of what's going these days, Hal is still installed on my system but doesn't run. I think I need upower, but upower is not installable.

Unless I'm mistaken, it depends on a broken package:

      Code:

upower : Depends: libimobiledevice2 (>= 0.9.7) but it is not installable
E: Broken packages


Otherwise the update of KDE seems OK.


Most likely it could be an issue with your mirror

Current version of upower I have is:

      Code:
$ apt-cache policy upower
upower:
  Installed: 0.9.11-1
  Candidate: 0.9.11-1
  Version table:
 *** 0.9.11-1 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

DeepDayze - 27.05.2011, 18:32
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      DeepDayze wrote:
      krisbee wrote:
Today's d-u with kde 4.6.3 etc. on a 64bit install has left me with a power management problem.

A KDE error flashes up on the splash screen after user login.

Power managment fails to install as "no valid power management backend plugin" can be found.

I've lost track of what's going these days, Hal is still installed on my system but doesn't run. I think I need upower, but upower is not installable.

Unless I'm mistaken, it depends on a broken package:

      Code:

upower : Depends: libimobiledevice2 (>= 0.9.7) but it is not installable
E: Broken packages


Otherwise the update of KDE seems OK.


Most likely it could be an issue with your mirror

Current version of upower I have is (32bit)

      Code:
$ apt-cache policy upower
upower:
  Installed: 0.9.11-1
  Candidate: 0.9.11-1
  Version table:
 *** 0.9.11-1 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


Looks like the imobilepower2 package is not available for amd64 at this time
merlyn - 27.05.2011, 20:47
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Just completed a d-u on my 32 bit desktop system, KDE 4.6.2 previously installed from experimental snapshot.

The d-u went smoothly.

One bit of wierdness post install is that I get odd screen remnants and tearing while moving the mouse, (only with desktop effects enabled).

Nvidia GTS 450 & nvidia-glx 270.41.19-1
Ilinsekt - 27.05.2011, 21:33
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No tearing here (same nvidia-glx, using compiz however). You could check if "Use VSync" in the advanced tab of the systemsettings/desktop effects module is enabled.
merlyn - 27.05.2011, 23:29
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      Ilinsekt wrote:
No tearing here (same nvidia-glx, using compiz however). You could check if "Use VSync" in the advanced tab of the systemsettings/desktop effects module is enabled.


That did the trick, thanks mate.

Although it's odd that having VSync enabled didn't result in the same problem with 4.6.2

Which begs the difference what changes (if any) have been made to compositing in 4.6.3 ?
mylo - 28.05.2011, 00:29
Post subject: Re: Watch out, kde 4.6.3 is being uploaded
      bfree wrote:
...


bfree,

first of all thanks for your hints!!
arwa - 28.05.2011, 08:33
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I had two smaller issues here with the new KDE version (I had the experimental-snapshots installed before).

On one account the panel was doubled. The doubled panel was configured the same way as the normal panel. It just was a little less in height, so I could see the normal panel behind it. I dragged the smaller one to the top edge of the screen to make sure that it are really two panels and then deleted the top panel. So far everything seems fine now.

On another account some of 3 application icons in the panel were placed behind the kde-menu button and the pager plasmoid. I dragged the icons a little bit around, deleted and replaced the pager and task manager plasmoids and after some retries the panel looks ok now.
krisbee - 28.05.2011, 11:08
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I had the double main panel show up, but only after installing aptosid-settings-kde 1.2.3 which was not part of my previous kde 4.6.3 D-U.

I worked around the power management problem I had by installing upower 0.9.10-1 from testing yesterday. But I see today there is a tweaked version of the latest upower, so I can now install 0.9.11-1+b0.aptosid.1 0. Many thanks to devs.
DeepDayze - 28.05.2011, 14:42
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      arwa wrote:
I had two smaller issues here with the new KDE version (I had the experimental-snapshots installed before).

On one account the panel was doubled. The doubled panel was configured the same way as the normal panel. It just was a little less in height, so I could see the normal panel behind it. I dragged the smaller one to the top edge of the screen to make sure that it are really two panels and then deleted the top panel. So far everything seems fine now.

On another account some of 3 application icons in the panel were placed behind the kde-menu button and the pager plasmoid. I dragged the icons a little bit around, deleted and replaced the pager and task manager plasmoids and after some retries the panel looks ok now.


I had that issue on one system so deleted both systray panels as they were nonfunctional and added it back and that quick fix works. Looks like a glitch when aptosid-settings-kde got updated which ended up adding another panel after a user modified the existing panel
kenyee - 28.05.2011, 16:16
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apt wants to get rid of kpackage and kssh and kappfinder on 64-bit right now.
Looks like they're not linked to the latest KDE yet...
ibgb - 28.05.2011, 16:29
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Wasn't kpackage euthanized quite some time ago?
DeepDayze - 28.05.2011, 16:31
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      kenyee wrote:
apt wants to get rid of kpackage and kssh and kappfinder on 64-bit right now.
Looks like they're not linked to the latest KDE yet...


let those go...those packages have been deprecated ages ago Wink

Kpackage was a relic of the old KDE3 days gone by
rotohr - 28.05.2011, 18:30
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upgrade from 4.4 went mainly smooth here (64bit).
minor glitches:
* doubled panel - erased one w/o problems
* session & desktop settings lost - bearable.
* kappfinder's version seems to be stuck at 4.4, so it had to go for now. hope for an upgrade.

anybody knows details about the latter?
vinur - 28.05.2011, 19:56
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Did my first set of D-U several days ago with KDE 4.6.3, about three machines.
Everything went smoothly, some big improvements after resetting log-on as per instructions covered earlier.
I did a lot of new color selections due to mostly esthetics. Minor irritation due to stock desktop icon name background color for KDE... still working with it.
But if that is all that is "wrong" Then I would have to say everything is doing just great.
Congratulations to the developers on a job well done. Very Happy
vinur - 28.05.2011, 20:07
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I would like to add that the video no longer dumps video memory on the log-out background, with the last set of upgrades, nor is it always looking as though it is on the verge of going unstable, hard to explain but before when doing selections there was some weird flashing from time to unpredictable time. Looked colorful but something was definitely wrong with that.
What I have:
michael@eyland:~$ infobash -v3
Host/Kernel/OS "eyland" running Linux 2.6.39-0.slh.3-aptosid-amd64 x86_64 [ aptosid 2011-01 Γῆρας - kde-lite - (201102051540) ]
CPU Info 4x AMD Phenom II X4 955 512 KB cache flags( sse3 ht nx lm svm ) clocked at [ 3214.155 MHz ]
Videocard nVidia G96 [GeForce 9400 GT] X.Org 1.10.1 [ 1920x1080@60.0hz ]
Network cards D-Link System Inc DGE-560T PCI Express Gigabit
Processes 123 | Uptime 11:49 | Memory 661.4/8005.9MB | HDD ST3500418AS,ST32000641AS Size 2500GB (4%used) | GLX Renderer Software Rasterizer | GLX Version Yes | Client Shell | Infobash v3.36
devil - 28.05.2011, 21:45
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kappfinder is gone for good (most probably)

greetz
devil
kenyee - 28.05.2011, 21:58
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      DeepDayze wrote:

Kpackage was a relic of the old KDE3 days gone by


LOL. I didn't know. I use it when I was a GUI for searching available/installed packages so I don't have to remember the apt commands Smile

What do people use instead of kpackage?
bfree - 28.05.2011, 22:06
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If you want a gui then try packagesearch which is included in kde-full (but not xfce as it is a qt application).
seasons - 31.05.2011, 17:51
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      slh wrote:
Be aware that upower, udisks and polkit-kde-1 might need to be installed explicitly (the first two should be handled by hard dependencies, but polkit-kde-1 likely doesn't get pulled in by default).


Thank you for that. Indeed, I had to install polkit-kde-1 manually. Cheers. Cool
bmorency - 05.06.2011, 22:44
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      vinur wrote:
I would like to add that the video no longer dumps video memory on the log-out background, with the last set of upgrades,


For some reason mine still dumps video memory when I logout. Does anyone know why this happens?
arwa - 06.06.2011, 06:21
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On my system the video memory dump effect still is exists. (nouveau driver with NV44A [GeForce 6200])

As not only nvidia cards do show this issue it seems that it came up with xorg 1.10, I guess.
arwa - 06.06.2011, 06:31
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Oh, but I do have another issue with KDE4.6.3 on two systems: The desktop grid (and also the desktop-switch up+down by hotkey functionality) does use the wrong desktop geometry.

One system with 6x3 desktops, a pager in a left panel (none in the default panel) uses a desktop grid of 9x2 panels (two rows). I could fix it by adding a pager in the default panel. Also I could remove it again, and the grid keeps the right geometry.

Another systems uses 4x2 desktops and the desktop grid did show 1x8 desktops. The pager is in the one and only default panel at the bottom of the screen. Removing and Readding the pager did not help. The only solution was to manually specify the desktop geometry in the desktop grid, instead of setting the layout mode to "pager".
hunkirdowne - 06.06.2011, 12:59
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      arwa wrote:
On my system the video memory dump effect still is exists. (nouveau driver with NV44A [GeForce 6200])

As not only nvidia cards do show this issue it seems that it came up with xorg 1.10, I guess.


I have nouveau running here in good condition.
nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 Go] (rev b2)

I did eventually add xserver-xorg-video-nouveau but other than possibly helping with remnants, I see no huge benefit.

      Code:
# lspci -ks 01:00.0
      Quote:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 Go] (rev b2)
Subsystem: Dell Device 00d4
Kernel driver in use: nouveau


      Code:
# lsmod | grep nouveau
      Quote:
nouveau 611179 2
ttm 45407 1 nouveau
drm_kms_helper 23910 2 ch7006,nouveau
drm 140084 5 ch7006,nouveau,ttm,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit 4271 1 nouveau
video 9565 1 nouveau
button 3430 1 nouveau


      Code:
# lshw -C display
      Quote:
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: NV11 [GeForce2 Go]
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
version: b2
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm agp agp-2.0 vga_controller bus_master vga_palette cap_list rom
configuration: driver=nouveau latency=32 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5
resources: irq:11 memory:fc000000-fcffffff memory:e0000000-e7ffffff memory:fd000000-fd00ffff


I'm sure I don't know how to check for panels in deskop or even at this point what geometry I have (other than I have four virtual desktops). Other than edification, I do not need to know this personally, but might be useful if only to provide experience with respect to troubleshooting.

I will say that on this old laptop, this upgrade ranks at the top. KDE 4.6 is faster than anything I've tried other than KDE 3.5.x (Gnome 2.x doesn't run well at all). Other than upgrading to Iceweasel 4.0, this is very close to out-of-the-box and seems to run quite well.

Let me know if any information might be useful to you and I will get back when I can.
maksrules - 16.06.2011, 14:44
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On two of my machines after upgrade to newest kde I cannot suspend from kde "Leave" menu or from widget. When I press the "suspend" in the menu - nothing happens, and from the widget I get a message "Do you want to suspend to RAM (sleep)?" and after clicking OK nothing happens. However, I'm not sure if it's KDE related in the first place.... udisk, upower, polkit-kde are installed.
maksrules - 20.06.2011, 09:01
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Guess what? It really is KDE related. When my current .kde folder is removed and a clean one is created - everything works fine. That means that something happened because of the upgrade...
DeepDayze - 20.06.2011, 13:18
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      maksrules wrote:
Guess what? It really is KDE related. When my current .kde folder is removed and a clean one is created - everything works fine. That means that something happened because of the upgrade...


That works as a definite last resort when you can't get certain things working. Most likely the config files got messed up along the way which can cause the issues you mentioned. You can then reset your themes and other settings to get the behavior you want.
maksrules - 20.06.2011, 13:44
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      DeepDayze wrote:
      maksrules wrote:
Guess what? It really is KDE related. When my current .kde folder is removed and a clean one is created - everything works fine. That means that something happened because of the upgrade...


That works as a definite last resort when you can't get certain things working. Most likely the config files got messed up along the way which can cause the issues you mentioned. You can then reset your themes and other settings to get the behavior you want.
That's exactly what I did - I reset everything from a clean .kde folder. Hate doing this, as there are quite a few thing to do (keyboard layouts, window buttons, etc).
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