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Upgrade Warnings - howto change from sidux to aptosid?

cid-baba - 11.09.2010, 16:18
Post subject: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
hi all,

first: congratulations! not a whole month passed and now our beloved distribution is back! I've got great respect to the dev-team - the huge amount of additional work you are doing to keep the project alive (instead of moving somewhere else) is a great thing!

second: slh wrote on the news-page: "A seamless crossgrade path from sidux to aptosid will be provided until the end of 2010. However a quick change is suggested because of potential issues outside of our influence."

will there be a howto, "how to do the change by hand and NOW"? or is it as easy as removing the sidux repos and add the aptosid repos and everything is fine?

I hope this post is not too impatient in placed in the right forum Wink (and please excuse my bad english)

lg
cid-baba
arwa - 11.09.2010, 16:49
Post subject: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
Well, here http://sidux.com/index.php?module=News& ... mp;sid=616 it is said that the next sidux upgrade will ask to change the apt/sources.list entries automatically. So it seems to be no problem to upgrade.

But in my case (with the sidux sources.list) I get some errors with apt-get update:
      Quote:

Get:33 ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/main i386 Packages
Err ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/main i386 Packages
Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '
Get:34 ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/contrib i386 Packages
Err ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/contrib i386 Packages
Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '
Get:35 ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/non-free i386 Packages
Err ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/non-free i386 Packages
Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '
Get:36 ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/firmware i386 Packages
Err ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/firmware i386 Packages
Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '
Get:37 ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/fix.main i386 Packages
Err ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/fix.main i386 Packages
Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '
Get:38 ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/fix.contrib i386 Packages
Err ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/fix.contrib i386 Packages
Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '
Get:39 ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/fix.non-free i386 Packages
Err ftp://ftp.spline.de sid/fix.non-free i386 Packages
Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '
W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/sidux/debian/di ... ackages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '

W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/sidux/debian/di ... ackages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '

W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/sidux/debian/di ... ackages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '

W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/sidux/debian/di ... ackages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '

W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/sidux/debian/di ... ackages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '

W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/sidux/debian/di ... ackages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '

W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/sidux/debian/di ... ackages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '

E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.


So I am not sure if I only have to wait for the next mirror sync or if it would be better to change the word "sidux" to "aptosid" in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.list. This works but then I am missing a gpg key. What should I do the best way?
bfree - 11.09.2010, 17:06
Post subject: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
Do not just switch directly to an aptosid repository.

The safe option is to change to the sidux.com/debian repository directly for your final sidux dist-upgrade which will ask you if you want to switch to aptosid. That will take care of your sources.list so when you dist-upgrade again you will pull in all the aptosid packages correctly.

It depends on what mirror you were using and exactly how they changed their mirroring. Simply using sidux.com/debian is the safe option and it won't download much but it will take care of changing your system properly including apt key's and the like.
chh - 11.09.2010, 17:09
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arwa: Have a look at the manual for the new aptosid.list file
Simply changing the "spline" lines from sidux to aptosid gives me an error, so I commented it out for now

Christian
arwa - 11.09.2010, 17:12
Post subject: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
Ah, great. Thanks, bfree, this did work. I will now do the big distro-change uprade.
mogogow - 11.09.2010, 17:21
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Just dist-upgraded a few minutes ago and now running 2.6.35-4.slh.6-aptosid-686 kernel. Using Aptosid repository with no problems. Congrats to all the Devs!!!

Mike Very Happy Very Happy
arwa - 11.09.2010, 17:26
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Yes, everything went smooth. Only one warning occured:
      Quote:

Processing triggers for menu ...
warning, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0020' near line 5 package 'udev-config-aptosid':
missing description
warning, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0020' near line 5 package 'udev-config-aptosid':
missing maintainer

ajmateusg - 11.09.2010, 17:39
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For me it did not work.

I had to do the following:

1. Edit the source-list and change the word sidux for aptosid for fit.
2. I ran apt-get update (there were errors reading my secondary mirror)
3. I ran apt-get dist-upgrade
4. find the new kernel linux-image-2.6-slh-aptosid-amd64
5. Install the new kernel with its headers
6. reboot and select the new kernel and I'm in aptosid.
7. I removed the slh-sidux kernel and headers. Easy. easy.

Thank you, thank our Devs.
DonKult - 11.09.2010, 18:50
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      ajmateusg wrote:
4. find the new kernel linux-image-2.6-amd64

You successfully found the debian kernels… They are okay most of the time, but if i would have the option, i would prefer slhs kernels… Try the linux-image-2.6-aptosid-amd64 metapackage Smile

In general, it should really work out of the box -- if not you should switch mirror instead of changing sidux to aptosid by hand.
Killua - 11.09.2010, 20:10
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upgrade works fine Very Happy

Big thx Wink

Killua
dark_ray - 11.09.2010, 20:26
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upgrade works fine here 2 Smile
thanks for great distro.

Small question - can I delete packages like:
apt-conf-sidux 0.2.0 aptosid defaults for apt
transitional metapackage to pull in apt-conf-aptosid
?
Lanzi - 11.09.2010, 20:34
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So, please, can we have an official "yes you can" upgrade allowance.
Is it now safe to upgrade to aptosid now?
saxxonian - 11.09.2010, 20:36
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smooth transition here, repos, grub, no hickups. great!
DonKult - 11.09.2010, 20:41
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      Lanzi wrote:
So, please, can we have an official "yes you can" upgrade allowance.
Is it now safe to upgrade to aptosid now?

"Yes, you can" as the first newsentry says.

Or it should be, yes. Some mirrors seem to have a little hickup through, so you maybe need to change your mirror, but at least for me it was as easy as
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
and saying 'yes' a few times…
(in init 3 as always of course)

If you get errors in the first command, just try changing mirror…

@dark_ray: Yes, you can remove the transition packages if you want, but they doesn't hurt nor harm anyone, so just keep them around a little while longer until the dust has settled. Wink
Lanzi - 11.09.2010, 20:51
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@donkult:
Thanks for the quick anwswer!
Lanzi - 11.09.2010, 20:58
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@DOnKult
Hmmm, I got "no pub Key" for ftp.tu-Braunschweig.
Do you mean that as the error in first place?

Wich mirror is working?

Same with spline

Should I manualy add aptosid Repository?
bfree - 11.09.2010, 21:02
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      Lanzi wrote:
I got "no pub Key" for ftp.tu-Braunschweig.
...
Wich mirror is working?

sidux.com/debian
wackenroader - 11.09.2010, 21:04
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Smooth transition here, Thanks a lot and long life to aptosid.
dark_ray - 11.09.2010, 21:05
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      DonKult wrote:
@dark_ray: Yes, you can remove the transition packages if you want, but they doesn't hurt nor harm anyone, so just keep them around a little while longer until the dust has settled. Wink

Ok I'll wait a little. thx
Lanzi - 11.09.2010, 21:30
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okay. it worked fine.
Thanks!
Ice9 - 11.09.2010, 22:56
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Transition more or less ok here.
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade

Grub2 went ok but now when in init 3 the console font is ridculously big, I cannot even read the upper and the lower lines of text anymore.
And when doing apt-get update I don't get any mention of new repos but a bunch of sidux files which apt claims it can't find.
slh - 11.09.2010, 23:35
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      Ice9 wrote:
Grub2 went ok but now when in init 3 the console font is ridculously big, I cannot even read the upper and the lower lines of text anymore.

This depends on your graphics card and its driver, KMS capable ones (intel/ radeon) detect the resolution on their own and set it accordingly. Not KMS capable ones (basically all others, but in particular nv/ nvidia) cannot detect the screen size themselves, however you can add "vga=791" (or "vga=794") to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub afterwards.
Ice9 - 11.09.2010, 23:58
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      Quote:
you can add "vga=791" (or "vga=794") to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub afterwards.


worked like a charm, thank you.
cajun - 12.09.2010, 01:05
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I tried the:

      Code:

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade


There were no questions and I'm now running 2.6.34-0.slh.11-sidux-amd64

Apparently I seemed to have missed something along the way.
doctordruidphd - 12.09.2010, 01:47
Post subject: Not working
Sorry, but I'm lost.

I did the update/dist-upgrade without changing anything, and I did not get any message about switching to aptosid.

When you say, "change mirror to sidux.com/debian", would you be more specific as to what to change? Which file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d do I change, and what do I change to?

I tried changing the sidux.list file from:
deb ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/sidux/debian/ sid main fix.main contrib non-free

to

deb ftp://sidux.com/debian/ sid main fix.main contrib non-free

but this is apparently wrong, as update reports it is unable to connect.

Thanks for any assistance.
se7en - 12.09.2010, 01:56
Post subject: RE: Not working
have a look here http://aptosid.com/index.php?module=Con ... &pid=2
change your sidux.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ to one of the aptosid server and do a apt-get update; apt-get install aptosid-archive-keyring; apt-get dist-upgrade.
cajun - 12.09.2010, 02:18
Post subject: RE: Not working
      se7en wrote:
have a look here http://aptosid.com/index.php?module=Con ... ;amp;pid=2
change your sidux.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ to one of the aptosid server and do a apt-get update; apt-get install aptosid-archive-keyring; apt-get dist-upgrade.
Unfortunately se7en, that didn't resolve my issue. Still no questions or aptosid Sad
se7en - 12.09.2010, 02:29
Post subject: RE: Not working
what server do you use in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/aptosid.list ?
cajun - 12.09.2010, 02:39
Post subject: RE: Not working
      Code:

cajun@moe:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ cat aptosid.list
#aptosid
#
deb http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main
deb-src http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main

se7en - 12.09.2010, 02:51
Post subject: RE: Not working
same as here. and it gets cached while you do apt-get update?
cajun - 12.09.2010, 02:52
Post subject: RE: Not working
AFAIK, at least there are no errors....
se7en - 12.09.2010, 03:02
Post subject: RE: Not working
Ign http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/aptosid/debian/ sid/main Translation-en
Ign http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/aptosid/debian/ sid/main Translation-en_US
Hit http://ftp.th.debian.org sid/contrib i386 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.th.debian.org sid/non-free i386 Packages/DiffIndex

and so on ...
if that is there than you cache the information and the dist-upgrade should pull the packages in ???

Sorry than I don't really know why
cajun - 12.09.2010, 03:11
Post subject: RE: Not working
I think something is wrong with my system from a while back. When aptosid makes a release I'll start fresh.

Here's what I see:

      Code:

root@moe:~# apt-get update
Hit http://download.virtualbox.org lenny Release.gpg
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid Release.gpg                           
Ign http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/ lenny/non-free Translation-en
Ign http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/ lenny/non-free Translation-en_US             
Hit http://download.virtualbox.org lenny Release                                                   
Hit http://download.virtualbox.org lenny/non-free amd64 Packages                                   
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/contrib Translation-en
Hit http://debian.tu-bs.de sid Release.gpg     
Ign http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/aptosid/debian/ sid/fix.main Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/contrib Translation-en_US
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/main Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                             
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/non-free Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                             
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid/non-free Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                         
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org experimental Release.gpg                                                                                                                                                                                       
Ign http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/aptosid/debian/ sid/fix.main Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                           
Ign http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/aptosid/debian/ sid/main Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                   
Ign http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/aptosid/debian/ sid/main Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                               
Hit http://debian.tu-bs.de sid Release                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/contrib Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                     
Hit http://debian.tu-bs.de sid/main Sources                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/contrib Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                 
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                       
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                     
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/non-free Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                   
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/non-free Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                 
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid Release                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Hit http://debian.tu-bs.de sid/fix.main Sources                                                                                                                                                                                             
Hit http://debian.tu-bs.de sid/main amd64 Packages                                                                                                                                                                                           
Hit http://debian.tu-bs.de sid/fix.main amd64 Packages                                                                                                                                                                                       
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org experimental Release                                                                                                                                                                                           
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex                                                                                                                                                                               
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex                                                                                                                                                                           
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org experimental/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org experimental/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org experimental/non-free amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org experimental/non-free amd64 Packages
Reading package lists... Done

se7en - 12.09.2010, 03:22
Post subject: RE: Not working
hmm well aptosid is there. apt-get dist-upgrade should pull in at least 50mb?
sorry I can not see why this is NOT happening.

by the way i would change your virtualbox from lenny to deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian squeeze non-free
lenny is way to old.
Has nothing to do with your problem ... But Smile
cajun - 12.09.2010, 03:36
Post subject: RE: Not working
Ok, will do se7en. Thanks for the heads up. Thanks for the valiant effort. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'll re-install when aptosid makes their first release.

Thanks,
Mike
goofythekiller - 12.09.2010, 05:09
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A step by step how to for the upgrade would really be appreciated. I'm still not sure what we need to change to make sure we dist-upgrade with the correct packages.

Also, thank you very much for keeping this project alive.
sng - 12.09.2010, 08:19
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Hi all

Everything went fine here too. Just one thing though; when i update, i get the following:


W: Failed to fetch http://aptosid.office-vienna.at/aptosid ... id/Release Unable to find expected entry contrib/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)

W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ ... id/Release Unable to find expected entry contrib/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)

E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.



Am i missing something?
drb - 12.09.2010, 08:24
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Things appeared to go fine here . . . pulled in all the aptosid packages . . . . . but like the others above, no questions
DonKult - 12.09.2010, 09:03
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      sng wrote:

W: Failed to fetch http://aptosid.office-vienna.at/aptosid ... id/Release Unable to find expected entry contrib/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)

W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ ... id/Release Unable to find expected entry contrib/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)

E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.


Am i missing something?


You miss a codebox instead of bold text Wink

No seriously: aptosid doesn't provide contrib, non-free, fix.contrib and alike. We never shipped and never supported contrib and non-free material so these directories were empty all the time in sidux and we choosed to remove them in aptosid.

So, everything you need is:
      Code:
deb http://aptosid.de/debian/ sid main fix.main

but if i am not completely wrong our upgrade packages should have fixed it for you automatically…



No questions could mean that you have configured debconf to never ask questions. In this case it will always apply the default. You can configure this with "dpkg-reconfigure debconf" as root. Best of choosing "Dialog" as frontend as you can't choose "KDE" or "GNOME" for hopefully obvious reasons Wink
mylo - 12.09.2010, 09:21
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      DonKult wrote:
...
but if i am not completely wrong our upgrade packages should have fixed it for you automatically…


The news "Welcome tp aptosid" mentions:

      Code:
...A seamless crossgrade path from sidux to aptosid will be
provided until the end of 2010...


So, may I kindly ask, if somebody can explain/clear that up for me?

Can one do a d-u now or wait until end of 2010? Are the above cited statements contradictionary? Or do I just not understand correctly?

Thanks for help!
slam - 12.09.2010, 09:25
Post subject:
      mylo wrote:
The news "Welcome tp aptosid" mentions:

      Code:
...A seamless crossgrade path from sidux to aptosid will be
provided until the end of 2010...


So, may I kindly ask, if somebody can explain/clear that up for me?

Can one do a d-u now or wait until end of 2010? Are the above cited statements contradictionary? Or do I just not understand correctly?

Thanks for help!
The upgrade path is there already, and we make sure it will will work until end of the year.
Greetings,
Chris
sng - 12.09.2010, 09:27
Post subject:
      DonKult wrote:

You miss a codebox instead of bold text Wink

That was intentional i'm affraid. I don't like code boxes spanning halfway the containing frame Embarassed
My bad...
      DonKult wrote:

No seriously: aptosid doesn't provide contrib, non-free, fix.contrib and alike. We never shipped and never supported contrib and non-free material so these directories were empty all the time in sidux and we choosed to remove them in aptosid.

So, everything you need is:
      Code:
deb http://aptosid.de/debian/ sid main fix.main

but if i am not completely wrong our upgrade packages should have fixed it for you automatically…


My bad again...
I just s/sidux/aptosid/g and updated...
BTW, when i tried removing contrib, non-free, fix.contrib and alike last night, I lost all aptosid packages

Anyways everything is ok now
Thanks!!!

      DonKult wrote:

No questions could mean that you have configured debconf to never ask questions. In this case it will always apply the default. You can configure this with "dpkg-reconfigure debconf" as root. Best of choosing "Dialog" as frontend as you can't choose "KDE" or "GNOME" for hopefully obvious reasons Wink

catalinus - 12.09.2010, 09:34
Post subject:
apt-get update and dist-upgrade worked fine. at second dist-upgrade it installed the new aptosid kernel. I was left will lot of sidux art-and-so packages so I suppose I'll have to manually remove those...
muchan - 12.09.2010, 10:08
Post subject: Re: Not working
      doctordruidphd wrote:
Sorry, but I'm lost.

I did the update/dist-upgrade without changing anything, and I did not get any message about switching to aptosid.

When you say, "change mirror to sidux.com/debian", would you be more specific as to what to change? Which file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d do I change, and what do I change to?

I tried changing the sidux.list file from:
deb ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/sidux/debian/ sid main fix.main contrib non-free

to

deb ftp://sidux.com/debian/ sid main fix.main contrib non-free

but this is apparently wrong, as update reports it is unable to connect.

Thanks for any assistance.


From old "sidux" manual (now offline) in the download mirror page:

      Quote:

(sidux repository only)
http://sidux.com
deb http://sidux.com/debian/ sid main fix.main
# deb-src http://sidux.com/debian/ sid main fix.main


so, the problem was that sidux.com repository worked only with http protocol, not ftp. so you couldn't update.

now, I think you should once delete aptosid.list, change the sidux.list to abave quote, then apt-get update and dist-upgrade.
Hope it works. (unless you have already newer version of transition package from aptosid repo...)
eQuacky - 12.09.2010, 11:48
Post subject:
Transition as described by bfree worked fine for my laptops.

Thanks a lot to all devs, team members and supporters for ongoing and future development.

Past time to change those things was doubtlessly not easy for all of you folks.

Thanks again for aptosid.

Greetz

Thomas
mylo - 12.09.2010, 12:05
Post subject:
      catalinus wrote:
apt-get update and dist-upgrade worked fine. at second dist-upgrade it installed the new aptosid kernel. ...


catalinus,

do you talk about a 32- or 64-bit installation?
chameleon - 12.09.2010, 12:22
Post subject:
If I perform a fresh install of sidux and then 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade' will I then have aptosid?
gensoul - 12.09.2010, 12:29
Post subject:
      chameleon wrote:
If I perform a fresh install of sidux and then 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade' will I then have aptosid?

Try 'apt-get dist-upgrade' instead of 'apt-get upgrade'. Wink

Then you will be asked about migration to aptosid.
clubex - 12.09.2010, 12:44
Post subject:
Transition went Ok for me but I can't seem to locate aptosid-kernelhacking ie.

apt-get install aptosid-kernelhacking
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package aptosid-kernelhacking

# Aptosid repository
deb ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main
# deb-src ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main
slam - 12.09.2010, 12:49
Post subject:
The mirror is still not completely synced, please be patient, or use aptosid.com/debian instead.
Greetings,
Chris
agent_pumuckl - 12.09.2010, 13:32
Post subject: debconf-question
Hello,

maybe my question sounds a little bit clumsy, but I have read that there should be a debconf-question weather one wants to change to aptosid.

I just performed an dist-upgrade, but no question occoured.
What have I done wrong?

Thanks in advance!

Best regards, agent_pumuckl
bfree - 12.09.2010, 13:41
Post subject: Re: debconf-question
      agent_pumuckl wrote:

I just performed an dist-upgrade, but no question occoured.
What have I done wrong?

Probably your mirror has not updated at all or it has already updated to aptosid and does not have the final sidux repo.

Change your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.list so it uses http://sidux.com/debian for it's mirror and then d-u again and you should see the question.

After that d-u has completed if you d-u again you will pull in all the new stuff from aptosid properly.
catalinus - 12.09.2010, 14:03
Post subject:
      mylo wrote:
      catalinus wrote:
apt-get update and dist-upgrade worked fine. at second dist-upgrade it installed the new aptosid kernel. ...


catalinus,

do you talk about a 32- or 64-bit installation?


64 bit xfce

Now it seems something is not right, dist-upgrade wants to install some sidux stuff.. so I guess I'll manually remove the packages in question.

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
aptosid-manual-common aptosid-manual-en
The following packages will be upgraded:
configure-dsl gfxboot-theme-sidux gfxboot-themes-sidux-2010-01-hypnos-core
libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21 linux-headers-2.6-sidux-amd64
linux-image-2.6-sidux-amd64 sidux-art-xfce sidux-manual-common
sidux-manual-en sidux-searchplugins
11 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 2,481kB of archives.
After this operation, 209kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
agent_pumuckl - 12.09.2010, 14:13
Post subject: Re: debconf-question
[quote="bfree"]
      agent_pumuckl wrote:

Change your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.list so it uses http://sidux.com/debian for it's mirror and then d-u again and you should see the question.

After that d-u has completed if you d-u again you will pull in all the new stuff from aptosid properly.


Thanks for your help! It did not work for me, but I changed the mirrors manually: In my sidux.list contains now
      Quote:
deb http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main
deb ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main

and my debian.list contains
      Quote:
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free


Is this ok?

Thanks!
bfree - 12.09.2010, 14:29
Post subject: Re: debconf-question
      agent_pumuckl wrote:
... I changed the mirrors manually: In my sidux.list contains now
      Quote:
deb http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main
deb ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main

...
Is this ok?

Not really. First you only need one mirror in there, so delete or comment out the spline.de line. Second you shouldn't be pointing your sidux.list to aptosid at all, so replace "http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/aptosid/debian/" with "http://sidux.com/debian/". Now your next d-u (after an apt-get update) should ask you the question about switching sources so the next time you d-u you will get all the new aptosid packages.
drb - 12.09.2010, 14:33
Post subject:
That's exactly what I did, and I didn't get any questions. I'm not sure if I'm converted or not now but now I've got my sources linked to aptosid not sidux. Reading the threads above, I'm not alone
blackhole - 12.09.2010, 14:36
Post subject:
After upgrade to aptosid (all OK) I see some sidux* related package on my system. Can I purge them? Or it will be done automatically after?
slam - 12.09.2010, 14:45
Post subject:
      blackhole wrote:
After upgrade to aptosid (all OK) I see some sidux* related package on my system. Can I purge them? Or it will be done automatically after?
You can of course purge them, if you do not use them (e.g. art packages).
Greetings,
Chris
catalinus - 12.09.2010, 14:49
Post subject:
      blackhole wrote:
After upgrade to aptosid (all OK) I see some sidux* related package on my system. Can I purge them? Or it will be done automatically after?


I suppose we'll have to purge them manually.

I already did

      Code:
apt-get --purge remove gfxboot-theme-sidux gfxboot-themes-sidux-2010-01-hypnos-core linux-headers-2.6-sidux-amd64 linux-image-2.6-sidux-amd64 sidux-art-xfce sidux-manual-common sidux-manual-en sidux-searchplugins
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gfxboot-theme-sidux* gfxboot-themes-sidux-2010-01-hypnos-core*
  linux-headers-2.6-sidux-amd64* linux-image-2.6-sidux-amd64* sidux-art-xfce*
  sidux-manual-common* sidux-manual-en* sidux-searchplugins*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 8 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
After this operation, 4,043kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 98524 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing gfxboot-theme-sidux ...
Removing gfxboot-themes-sidux-2010-01-hypnos-core ...
Purging configuration files for gfxboot-themes-sidux-2010-01-hypnos-core ...
Removing linux-headers-2.6-sidux-amd64 ...
Removing linux-image-2.6-sidux-amd64 ...
Removing sidux-art-xfce ...
Removing sidux-manual-en ...
Removing sidux-manual-common ...
Purging configuration files for sidux-manual-common ...
Removing sidux-searchplugins ...
Processing triggers for menu ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...

[/code]
x-un-i - 12.09.2010, 14:50
Post subject:
      clubex wrote:
Transition went Ok for me but I can't seem to locate aptosid-kernelhacking ie.

apt-get install aptosid-kernelhacking
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package aptosid-kernelhacking

# Aptosid repository
deb ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main
# deb-src ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main


that package was dropped and is no longer in the repository
you don't need it
agent_pumuckl - 12.09.2010, 14:54
Post subject: RE: Re: debconf-question
Thank you!
I did as you told me, and I got the new aptosid-kernel and other aptosid-stuff, but no question...

You said that I should not be pointing from my sidux.list to aptosid: Is there now an "aptosid.list"?
Wromey - 12.09.2010, 14:57
Post subject:
With me nearly everthing worked out fine, when switching to aptosid. (Thanx a lot for the new start!)
Only my kernel was not upgraded.

In sidux i used siduxcc to update and upgrade the kernel, becaus the kernel was not updated automatically. Is something wrong with my configuration?

Thanx

Wolfgang
clubex - 12.09.2010, 15:12
Post subject:
      x-un-i wrote:
      clubex wrote:
Transition went Ok for me but I can't seem to locate aptosid-kernelhacking ie.

apt-get install aptosid-kernelhacking
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package aptosid-kernelhacking

# Aptosid repository
deb ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main
# deb-src ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main


that package was dropped and is no longer in the repository
you don't need it


To quote the manual:

      Quote:

Old kernels can be removed from the system. To do so, you can use the script kernel-remover which is in the package aptosid-kernelhacking. This script must be installed and allows to you nominate which kernels you wish to remove.

apt-get update
apt-get install aptosid-kernelhacking
kernel-remover


I note there is a package called kernel-remover in the repository. So do I presume that this package replaces that previously offered by kernel-hacking and the manual is in error?
gilpier - 12.09.2010, 15:18
Post subject:
      slam wrote:
The mirror is still not completely synced, please be patient, or use aptosid.com/debian instead.
Greetings,
Chris


I create, inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d the aptosid.list text archive, and inside them i wrote:
" #aptosid
# Free University Berlin/ spline (Student Project LInux NEtwork), Germany
deb ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main
#deb-src ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main".
I also eliminate the sidux.list.

After this, using #apt-get update and #apt-get dist-upgrade, it seems that everything is working well.
muchan - 12.09.2010, 15:27
Post subject:
      catalinus wrote:


Now it seems something is not right, dist-upgrade wants to install some sidux stuff.. so I guess I'll manually remove the packages in question.

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
aptosid-manual-common aptosid-manual-en
The following packages will be upgraded:
configure-dsl gfxboot-theme-sidux gfxboot-themes-sidux-2010-01-hypnos-core
libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21 linux-headers-2.6-sidux-amd64
linux-image-2.6-sidux-amd64 sidux-art-xfce sidux-manual-common
sidux-manual-en sidux-searchplugins
11 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 2,481kB of archives.
After this operation, 209kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?


I don't know the details of transition mechanism, but I'd imagine, normal path for changing the name of package at dist-update is making the new version of old packages, which depends to the new package, and once installed, new package later update with conflict to the old package, to make it removed automatically.

Maybe it's not exact and correct, but in your case, I think it's better leave it to update sidux-* packages, to do the work dev team intends to do.
hepp - 12.09.2010, 15:28
Post subject: frickelplatz and nvidia
I sidux I have earlier used the frickelplatz repository for managing nvidia without any problems. Should/could I add this repo to my apt sources or should it be managed differently now ?
muchan - 12.09.2010, 15:31
Post subject:
      Wromey wrote:
With me nearly everthing worked out fine, when switching to aptosid. (Thanx a lot for the new start!)
Only my kernel was not upgraded.

In sidux i used siduxcc to update and upgrade the kernel, becaus the kernel was not updated automatically. Is something wrong with my configuration?

Thanx

Wolfgang


check if you have packages named
linux-image-2.6-aptosid-686
linux-headers-2.6-aptosid-686
installed.
# apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6-aptosid-686 linux-headers-2.6-aptosid-686

(if you have 64bit version, change -686 to -amd64 )

If not, installing them will activate installing new kernel at dist-upgrade.
slam - 12.09.2010, 15:35
Post subject: Re: frickelplatz and nvidia
      hepp wrote:
I sidux I have earlier used the frickelplatz repository for managing nvidia without any problems. Should/could I add this repo to my apt sources or should it be managed differently now ?
For all 3rd party repos please follow the same rules:

Check and re-check them before trusting them;
Enable them just temporary to install single packages;
Disable them after doing so;
Never ever dist-upgrade against them.

If you have an Nividia problem with Debian/sidux, please post a support request instead.

Greetings,
Chris
Wromey - 12.09.2010, 16:14
Post subject:
      muchan wrote:


check if you have packages named
linux-image-2.6-aptosid-686
linux-headers-2.6-aptosid-686
installed.
# apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6-aptosid-686 linux-headers-2.6-aptosid-686

(if you have 64bit version, change -686 to -amd64 )

If not, installing them will activate installing new kernel at dist-upgrade.


The packages were not installed. I thought they would be installed automatically.
I installed them with apt-get, now I am running them. Thanx

Wolfgang
johnlittle001 - 12.09.2010, 16:47
Post subject:
The upgrade went well. I purged all the sidux stuff (using the instructions posted earlier in this thread). When I reboot the log-in screen still has the sidux artwork. Is that what I'm supposed to see? Thanks.
piper - 12.09.2010, 16:50
Post subject:
johnlittle001

new login screen

in konsole

      Code:
sux (password)

dbus-launch systemsettings


advanced > loginmanager > theme > and choose aptosid theme
mylo - 12.09.2010, 16:56
Post subject: Re: debconf-question
      agent_pumuckl wrote:
...but I have read that there should be a debconf-question weather one wants to change to aptosid.

I just performed an dist-upgrade, but no question occoured....


I face the same...
chameleon - 12.09.2010, 17:31
Post subject: RE: Re: debconf-question
aptosid installed via a fresh sidux install and dist-upgrade brought up the aptosid option.
Looking fab!
doctordruidphd - 12.09.2010, 20:47
Post subject: Upgrade worked
Thanks for the help, I got the upgrade working, though I never did get a debconf question.

1. Removed /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.list

2. Created a new /etc/apt/sources.list.d/aptocid.list
with the following lines:

deb ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main
#deb-src ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/aptosid/debian/ sid main fix.main


3. apt-get update
apt-get install aptosid-archive-keyring
apt-get dist-upgrade


Thanks, se7en.

All seems well at this point. I did get the aptocid kernel, and the artwork.

(off topic comment)
Still waiting for a new ia32-libs-gtk so i can run firefox again. Probably a sid issue.
piper - 12.09.2010, 20:55
Post subject: RE: Upgrade worked
      Quote:

Still waiting for a new ia32-libs-gtk so i can run firefox again. Probably a sid issue


bug #596437
cajun - 12.09.2010, 23:37
Post subject:
I'm still perplexed as to why I'm not seeing the aptosid, nor getting the 'questions'. It appears at least some of the aptosid packages are installed:

      Code:

root@moe:/etc/apt/sources.list.d# dpkg -l | grep aptosid
ii  apt-conf-aptosid                           0.2.0                               aptosid defaults for apt
ii  apt-conf-sidux                             0.2.0                               aptosid defaults for apt
ii  aptosid-archive-keyring                    2010.08.30                          GnuPG archive keys oif the aptosid archive
ii  aptosid-art-kde                            1.5.20                              virtual package for KDE themes in aptosid
ii  aptosid-art-kde-keres                      0.2.15                              KDE theme for the aptosid 2010-02 release
ii  aptosid-art-kdm-keres                      0.2.15                              KDM theme for the aptosid 2010-02 release
ii  aptosid-art-ksplash-keres                  0.2.15                              KDE ksplash theme for the aptosid 2010-02 release
ii  aptosid-art-wallpaper                      1.5.20                              virtual package for wallpapers in aptosid
ii  aptosid-art-wallpaper-keres                0.2.15                              aptosid wallpaper for the 2010-02 release
ii  aptosid-irc                                0.6.1                               Start a suitable IRC client to enter #aptosid
ii  aptosid-manual-common                      02.08.2010.09.12.2-1                the official aptosid manual - common files
ii  aptosid-manual-de                          02.08.2010.09.12.2-1                the official German aptosid manual
ii  aptosid-manual-en                          02.08.2010.09.12.2-1                the official English aptosid manual
ii  aptosid-scripts                            0.4.2                               miscellaneous scripts for aptosid
ii  aptosid-settings-kde                       1.2.0                               provide default KDE settings for aptosid
ii  gfxboot-theme-aptosid                      1.5.20                              aptosid meta theme for gfxboot-compliant boot loaders
ii  gfxboot-themes-aptosid-2010-02-keres-core  0.5.1                               graphical boot logos for aptosid Κῆρες
ii  linux-headers-2.6-aptosid-amd64            2.6.35-23                           Linux image for aptosid on 64-bit PCs
ii  linux-headers-2.6.35-4.slh.6-aptosid-amd64 2.6.35-23                           Header files for Linux 2.6.35-4.slh.6-aptosid-amd64
ii  linux-image-2.6-aptosid-amd64              2.6.35-23                           Linux image for aptosid on 64-bit PCs
ii  linux-image-2.6.35-4.slh.6-aptosid-amd64   2.6.35-23                           Linux 2.6.35 for 64-bit PCs
ii  openfwwf                                   5.2-0~c1.aptosid.6                  Open firmware for Broadcom BCM43xx (b43) wlan devices
ii  sidux-irc                                  0.6.1                               Start a suitable IRC client to enter #aptosid
ii  sidux-scripts                              0.4.2                               miscellaneous scripts for aptosid
ii  sidux-settings-kde                         1.2.0                               provide default KDE settings for aptosid
ii  udev-config-aptosid                        0.11.1                              custom udev configurations for udev
ii  wireless-regdb                             2009.11.25-0+c1.aptosid.1           wireless regulatory database


But yet, I'm still running on the old kernel:

      Code:

root@moe:/etc/apt/sources.list.d# uname -a
Linux moe 2.6.34-0.slh.11-sidux-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jun 26 14:54:24 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Maybe this information will help someone point me in the right direction.
doctordruidphd - 13.09.2010, 01:29
Post subject:
      Quote:
ii linux-image-2.6.35-4.slh.6-aptosid-amd64

It looks like the kernel is there; just to be sure:

      Code:
dpkg-query --status linux-image-2.6.35-4.slh.6-aptosid-amd64


If that shows it is installed, then maybe you need to run update-grub, or otherwise check how you are booting your system. Are you booting from your aptosid system, or some other; if another system, you may need to run update-grub on it. If you are booting from the symlinks /vmlinuz and /.initrd.img , you need to make sure they got updated.
cajun - 13.09.2010, 01:33
Post subject:
It appears to be installed:

      Code:

root@moe:/etc/init.d# dpkg-query --status linux-image-2.6.35-4.slh.6-aptosid-amd64
Package: linux-image-2.6.35-4.slh.6-aptosid-amd64
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: kernel
Installed-Size: 109692
Maintainer: Stefan Lippers-Hollmann <s.l-h@gmx.de>
Architecture: amd64
Source: linux-aptosid-2.6
Version: 2.6.35-23
Provides: linux-image, linux-image-2.6, linux-modules-2.6.35-4.slh.6-aptosid-amd64
Depends: module-init-tools, initramfs-tools (>= 0.93) | linux-initramfs-tool
Pre-Depends: debconf | debconf-2.0, dpkg (>= 1.14.21)
Recommends: firmware-linux-free (>= 2.6.35)
Suggests: linux-doc-2.6.35, grub-pc, crda
Conflicts: initramfs-tools (<< 0.93)
Description: Linux 2.6.35 for 64-bit PCs
 The Linux kernel 2.6.35 and modules for use on PCs with AMD64 or Intel 64
 processors.
Homepage: http://kernel.org/


I'll do some looking at the bootup. Thanks!
cajun - 13.09.2010, 01:43
Post subject:
I believe you hit upon at least part of the culprit doctordruidphd. When I did the update-grub, I saw it find the .35 kernel, however it is NOT being added into the menu.lst. I suspect the reason could be all the old kernels I have lying around. I need to do some cleanup, then I'll try update-grub again.
doctordruidphd - 13.09.2010, 01:51
Post subject:
menu.lst? Are you using grub legacy? There might be a problem there. I don't know, I haven't used that in a while.
If you meant grub.cfg, I checked mine and it is indeed there, at the top of the list.
cajun - 13.09.2010, 02:02
Post subject:
It appears to be a grub issue. At least at this point. menu.lst still shows .34-11. Grub.cfg shows .35 right at the top, just as I assume does yours.

      Code:

root@moe:~# dpkg -l | grep grub
ii  grub-common                                1.98+20100804-4                     GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (common files)
ii  grub-pc                                    1.98+20100804-4                     GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC/BIOS version)
ii  grub2                                      1.98+20100804-4                     GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package)


I did go through kernel-remover and removed all but three of the old kernels. Not sure what to do next.
doctordruidphd - 13.09.2010, 02:17
Post subject:
As far as I know, menu.lst is not used by grub2, only grub.cfg, so it shouldn't matter what is in menu.lst.
Do you have more than one OS installed on your disk? If you have another linux system, I wonder if it has taken over booting, thus not reading your grub.cfg on aptosis. If that's the case, you will either neep to do an update-grub on the other system, or else do a grub-setup on your aptosid system to reinstall it so the system boots from it.
Just my guess.
cajun - 13.09.2010, 02:56
Post subject:
No, just sidux (aptosid) is the only OS here. I'll look into the grub-setup.
cajun - 13.09.2010, 03:31
Post subject:
grub-install /dev/sdb ----no-floppy resolved the problem here.

root@moe:~# uname -a
Linux moe 2.6.35-4.slh.6-aptosid-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Sep 6 20:55:39 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Thanks to everyone for their help. A special thanks to the Aptosid team!!
vinur - 13.09.2010, 08:08
Post subject: aptosid sucess - good
Tried to switch on day one, I don't think that it was entirely successful as it is still not running all of my applications but the hardware issues (no usb devices were detected once inserted on the desktop but were in the file-manager KDE and no DVD burner or detection as a usable device) This was solved by removing the sidux version of hal and leaving the replacement aptosid hal intact. All of the other mods are to extensive to go into and some applications are not going to work under a split personality. The machine is running what it does very well, all hardware issues are solved. Any software issues are not the fault of aptosid as they are not from those repositories.
Oddly... Googleearth with the high performance Nvidia modified requirements and ia32 stuff is functioning very well... I would have expected it to fubar... it works well and I am now an aptosid guy - from sidux
kernel 2.6.35-4.slh.8-aptosid-amd64
99% pleased... congratulations to the developers and edhunter who gave me some good clues and was helpful.

I will figure the rest out on my own. Very Happy
its been a learning experience.
timrichardson - 13.09.2010, 09:30
Post subject:
I had one laptop that didn't migrate over; it was using repository sidux.net for some reason (obviously something I did in the past).
Changing it to sidux.com then worked as advertised.
rossi - 13.09.2010, 13:37
Post subject: Re: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
Hello:

      bfree wrote:
Do not just switch directly to an aptosid repository.

The safe option is to change to the sidux.com/debian repository directly for your final sidux dist-upgrade which will ask you if you want to switch to aptosid. That will take care of your sources.list so when you dist-upgrade again you will pull in all the aptosid packages correctly.

It depends on what mirror you were using and exactly how they changed their mirroring. Simply using sidux.com/debian is the safe option and it won't download much but it will take care of changing your system properly including apt key's and the like.


This did not work for me.

When I performed a d-u from the current sidux configuration, it simply did an update. No questions were asked and migration to the new distribution was performed.

Can someone guide me on what to do next?

      Code:

uname -a
Linux siduxbox 2.6.34-0.slh.11-sidux-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jun 26 14:54:24 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Regards,

angelo[/code]
muchan - 13.09.2010, 14:30
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
      Quote:

When I performed a d-u from the current sidux configuration, it simply did an update. No questions were asked and migration to the new distribution was performed.

Can someone guide me on what to do next?


What do you mean with
"No questions were asked and migration to the new distribution was performed. "
In your view, what migration was performed and how?

you can post your
/etc/apt/sources.list
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.list
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/aptosid.list
and result of
$ apt-cache policy sidux-archive-keyring distro-default

and then someone here will tell the state of your migration, and tell exactly what to do next.

(Edit. sorry, it was my mistake. not sidux.com, aptosid.com in the directory... sidux.list, aptosid.list, of course.)
pjnsmb - 13.09.2010, 14:31
Post subject:
      muchan wrote:
      Wromey wrote:
With me nearly everthing worked out fine, when switching to aptosid. (Thanx a lot for the new start!)
Only my kernel was not upgraded.

In sidux i used siduxcc to update and upgrade the kernel, becaus the kernel was not updated automatically. Is something wrong with my configuration?

Thanx

Wolfgang


check if you have packages named
linux-image-2.6-aptosid-686
linux-headers-2.6-aptosid-686
installed.
# apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6-aptosid-686 linux-headers-2.6-aptosid-686

(if you have 64bit version, change -686 to -amd64 )

If not, installing them will activate installing new kernel at dist-upgrade.


have a look at an earlier reply in this thread.........
rossi - 13.09.2010, 15:15
Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
      muchan wrote:
      Quote:

When I performed a d-u from the current sidux configuration, it simply did an update. No questions were asked and migration to the new distribution was performed.

Can someone guide me on what to do next?


What do you mean with
"No questions were asked and migration to the new distribution was performed. "
In your view, what migration was performed and how?

you can post your
/etc/apt/sources.list
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.com
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/aptosid.com
and result of
$ apt-cache policy sidux-archive-keyring distro-default

and then someone here will tell the state of your migration, and tell exactly what to do next.


What I mean bu "no questions were asked" is that in an earlier post it stated
      Quote:
Do not just switch directly to an aptosid repository.

The safe option is to change to the sidux.com/debian repository directly for your final sidux dist-upgrade which will ask you if you want to switch to aptosid. That will take care of your sources.list so when you dist-upgrade again you will pull in all the aptosid packages correctly.

I don't have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.com.

I don't have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/aptosid.com. Isn't that supposed to be automatically created during the last upgrade?

      Code:
root@siduxbox:~# apt-cache policy sidux-archive-keyring distro-default
sidux-archive-keyring:
  Installed: 2007.03.09
  Candidate: 2007.03.09
  Version table:
 *** 2007.03.09 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
N: Ignoring file 'out' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has no filename extension                                                                                                                                   
N: Unable to locate package distro-default                                                                                                                                                                                       
root@siduxbox:~#
                                                                               


Thank you for your patience.

Regards,

Angelo
bfree - 13.09.2010, 15:33
Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
      rossi wrote:

I don't have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.com
I don't have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/aptosid.com

That should say /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/aptosid.list

There is now a quick guide to how the process should be done.
seasons - 13.09.2010, 15:42
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
rossi, you need to change /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.list from this:
      Code:
# Free University Berlin/ spline (Student Project LInux NEtwork)
deb ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/sidux/debian/ sid main contrib non-free fix.main fix.contrib fix.non-free
#deb-src ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/sidux/debian/ sid main contrib non-free fix.main fix.contrib fix.non-free

to:
      Code:
deb http://sidux.com/debian/ sid main fix.main
#deb-src http://sidux.com/debian/ sid main fix.main

AFAICT, sidux.com is the only old sidux mirror that supports the auto-updating.
x-un-i - 13.09.2010, 15:55
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
      Quote:


AFAICT, sidux.com is the only old sidux mirror that supports the auto-updating.



for me office-vienna has also worked but i did not tried other mirrors.
devil - 13.09.2010, 16:01
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
I don't have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.com.

I don't have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/aptosid.com.
the names is sidux.list and aptosid.list.
please look at http://aptosid.com/index.php?module=new ... &sid=7 if still in doubt.

greetz
devil
ajmateusg - 13.09.2010, 17:42
Post subject:
      DonKult wrote:
      ajmateusg wrote:
4. find the new kernel linux-image-2.6-amd64

You successfully found the debian kernels… They are okay most of the time, but if i would have the option, i would prefer slhs kernels… Try the linux-image-2.6-aptosid-amd64 metapackage Smile


Done. I have already fit the slh-aptosid kernel installed with the metapackage. Working fine. Corrected my initial post.

Thank you.
hepp - 13.09.2010, 19:34
Post subject: ia32-libs-gtk
Converting my 686 pc went smoothly. The nvidia driver updated without any problems.

Now, my pc at work is 64bit and the dist-upgrade want to remove ia32-libs-gtk that will make skype unusable. I do need skype. Can I dist-upgrade with the restriction to keep ia32-libs-gtk (and then ia32-libs and perhaps more...) or will I have to wait with dist-upgrade until the bug is resolved ? I installed skype using slams repository when that was available.
rossi - 14.09.2010, 11:53
Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
      bfree wrote:
      rossi wrote:

I don't have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.com
I don't have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/aptosid.com

That should say /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sidux.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/aptosid.list

There is now a quick guide to how the process should be done.


Good Morning:

Thank you to everyone for your help. I believe that I am
      Quote:
Good to go now.


One more question please. How do I get rid of the initial grub screen? I tried deleting an entry placed there from the old Sidux distribution, but it is still there on re-boot. Chaining to grub2 seems to provide a more cluttered screen as well.

Regards,

Angelo
ajmateusg - 14.09.2010, 13:26
Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
      rossi wrote:

One more question please. How do I get rid of the initial grub screen? I tried deleting an entry placed there from the old Sidux distribution, but it is still there on re-boot. Chaining to grub2 seems to provide a more cluttered screen as well.

Regards,

Angelo


Run in terminal as root 'update-grub'.
ajmateusg - 14.09.2010, 13:44
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
@rossi

If the previous indication not deleted the menu entry, it means that I still have not uninstalled the kernel. Remove the kernel (apt-get purge linux-image-xxxxxxx with headers). Uninstaller, automatically run the 'update-grub' and takes the grub entry.
Razgorov_Prikazka - 14.09.2010, 13:50
Post subject:
Well... Congrats dev.team! Nothing went wrong, I did it all in 1 go! Even the netbook didn't give any problems.
But ehhhh.... If I switch back to runlevel 5, I am still welcomed by a sidux screen. Is this because there isn't a aptosid screen made yet?

Anyway, Superb job!
Greetzzz Razgorov
meinhardt.jgbr - 14.09.2010, 14:06
Post subject:
I'm about half way done on the Full version DVD download, which is not that fast for obvious reasons, since the good news ref to the new 2010-02 release hit the net this morning.
Since my previous HDD installation was pretty new and I had experienced random locks with Hypnos, I'm gonna start from scratch as soon as I get my download finished. Will report how clean install happened as soon as finished. Should be no problem as usual.

Cheers
ajmateusg - 14.09.2010, 14:26
Post subject: Re: RE: Not working
      cajun wrote:
Ok, will do se7en. Thanks for the heads up. Thanks for the valiant effort. Maybe someone else will have an idea. If not, I'll re-install when aptosid makes their first release.

Thanks,
Mike


Do not reinstall. I think the system has been updated to fit. Would only have to manually everything about sidux art, kernel and headers. Change in / etc / apt / sources.d / the name of file sidux.list by aptosid.list and would completely fit.
devil - 14.09.2010, 14:47
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Not working
      Quote:

If I switch back to runlevel 5, I am still welcomed by a sidux screen. Is this because there isn't a aptosid screen made yet?

if you use kde you need to set the theme in systemsettings - advanced - loginmanager - theme.
you need to become root with sux and start it with dbus-launch systemsettings.

greetz
devil
dpeirce - 15.09.2010, 00:48
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Not working
I saw all the questions and posts, so waited 'til today to do my change over. I followed exactly the instructions in the <a href="http://aptosid.com/index.php?module=news&func=display&sid=7">QuickGuide</a> and it all worked "right out of the box".

Synaptic shows that I still have a number of sidux packages but I understand from an earlier post that they will be removed in future dist-upgrades.

Thank you, sidux-to-aptosid team. Y'all done good!

In faith, Dave
Viva Texas

Registered Linux user #417229
chturne - 15.09.2010, 07:41
Post subject:
I don't have any problems, the installation went without a hiccup for me.
I would like to thank the aptosid team for their time preparing the transition and for their continued support in the forum.

Much appriciated! Cool

-- Charles.
rossi - 15.09.2010, 12:27
Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: howto change from sidux to aptosid?
      ajmateusg wrote:
@rossi

If the previous indication not deleted the menu entry, it means that I still have not uninstalled the kernel. Remove the kernel (apt-get purge linux-image-xxxxxxx with headers). Uninstaller, automatically run the 'update-grub' and takes the grub entry.


Hello:

I have done all this. I am getting the correct kernel, and there is no longer any trace of the sidux images or headers.

But, I am still getting an initial grub screen with sidux choices which then chains into a grub2 screen.

Regards,

Angelo
devil - 15.09.2010, 13:06
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: howto change from sidux to aptos
the chainload is just a security measure. if eerything boots fine, you may run as root:
      Code:
upgrade-from-grub-legacy
which finishes off the grub2 installation.

greetz
devil
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