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Post subject: RE: related to gimp and hp printing removal  PostPosted: 29.09.2011, 00:10



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muchan, I know it is not very pure (freedom software wise) and it varies in behavior due to the experimental state of things so I do not complain much about what it does... as I am its master, so I get what I get as it were.
I run this computer for my main desktop and I do keep healthy backups of the data. just in case I really fubar it.
so I am just reporting a curiosity that someone else might benefit from or see what I have done... good and bad.
Love aptosid... and the sometimes stormy seas of experimental are for me just a normal state of things.
I manage to keep it running and keep the x server running.
GIMP and Printing are OK now... just a mystery on the Kubuntu, that was a surprise.
 
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Post subject: RE: related to gimp and hp printing removal  PostPosted: 29.09.2011, 09:42



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Am I missing something? Why is this topic marked [SOLVED] when the python upgrade is still removing many packages?
 
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Post subject: RE: related to gimp and hp printing removal  PostPosted: 29.09.2011, 10:35
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So, hplip-kubuntu.desktop is not package name that apt can see.

Then,
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DU last night took away the gimp and hplip and hplip-gui which I will need to put back into operation.
But here is something weird the HP Gui now on the desktop says... hplip-kubuntu.desktop
I never had any install stuff regarding Kubuntu

What is "HP Gui" you mentioned here? (is there proprietary HP gui application installed?)
from where have you "put back" hplip-gui? (but strange message was while it was removed?)

My guess is that this "HP Gui" application was initially programmed for kubuntu,
and has internal error message, that when some component is missing, show the the name
of packages of ubuntu which should contain the comonent, and debian uses other package name,
(probably "hplip-gui"...)
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: related to gimp and hp printing removal  PostPosted: 29.09.2011, 11:22



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      clubex wrote:
Am I missing something? Why is this topic marked [SOLVED] when the python upgrade is still removing many packages?


i can confirm this.
python upgrade still wants to remove many packages.
tested an hour ago with german official repos.

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Post subject: Re: RE: related to gimp and hp printing removal  PostPosted: 29.09.2011, 11:40



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      dpdt1 wrote:
      clubex wrote:
Am I missing something? Why is this topic marked [SOLVED] when the python upgrade is still removing many packages?


i can confirm this.
python upgrade still wants to remove many packages.
tested an hour ago with german official repos.


same here.

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# apt-get dist-upgrade
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gimp python-uno unoconv
...
# date
Thu Sep 29 13:39:33 CEST 2011


32-bit aptosid.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: related to gimp and hp printing removal  PostPosted: 29.09.2011, 11:49
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Austrian mirror on amd64 gimp, hplip and hplip-gui upgraded - no problems any more.
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I decided to just do a d-u anyways to see what happened because the packages it wanted to remove for me were libpulse-browse0, libreoffice-emailmerge, and python-uno. I woke up this morning and did a d-u and noticed a bunch of libreoffice stuff.

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The following packages will be upgraded:
  blinken cantor cantor-backend-kalgebra icedtea-netx icedtea-netx-common
  kalgebra kalzium kanagram kbruch kgeography khangman kig kiten klettres
  kmplot kstars ktouch kturtle kwordquiz libkdeeduui4 libkeduvocdocument4
  libkiten4 libmarblewidget11 libreoffice libreoffice-base
  libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core
  libreoffice-draw libreoffice-filter-binfilter libreoffice-filter-mobiledev
  libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-kde
  libreoffice-math libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-style-galaxy
  libreoffice-style-oxygen libreoffice-writer libscience4 libsoup2.4-1 marble
  marble-plugins parley python-kde4 rocs step ttf-opensymbol uno-libs3 ure


I then tried to reinstall the 3 packages that were removed yesterday to see if things had been fixed yet. libreoffice-emailmerge and python-uno were able to be installed but libpulse-browse0 apparently has no installation candidate. I believe that this was caused by the d-u but is because of a pulseaudio update yesterday, apparently libpulse-browse0 hasn't been updated for the new pulseaudio stuff.

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troy@troy-pc:~$ dpkg -l | grep pulse
ii  gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio            0.10.30-1                    GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio
rc  libpulse-browse0                    0.9.23-1                     PulseAudio client libraries (zeroconf support)
ii  libpulse-dev                        1.0-2                        PulseAudio client development headers and libraries
ii  libpulse-mainloop-glib0             1.0-2                        PulseAudio client libraries (glib support)
ii  libpulse0                           1.0-2                        PulseAudio client libraries
ii  pulseaudio                          1.0-2                        PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-esound-compat            1.0-2                        PulseAudio ESD compatibility layer
ii  pulseaudio-module-x11               1.0-2                        X11 module for PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-utils                    1.0-2                        Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server
ii  vlc-plugin-pulse                    1.1.11-2+b3                  PulseAudio plugin for VLC
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 29.09.2011, 12:37
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Also Austrian mirror on i386 gimp, hplip and hplip-gui upgraded without problems.
So, simply wait till your mirror has snyced - the problem itself is fixed.
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 29.09.2011, 20:19



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muchan, you may very well be correct.
I found the original hplip-3.11.3a self extracting .run file as a downloaded package, likely from HP site itself, I found it in my folder of downloaded drivers. Maybe it was created for ubuntu and I just found that it worked... it became Kubuntu when it built for my KDE desktop.
As I said I have had issues with the printer and have tried every possible software solution to make it work with some reliability. Cups makes it work OK so for the time being I will leave it that way.
This specific four color network printer has always had issues. I do have problems with the ethic of using non-free drivers, I do not want to... but I am also pragmatic in that I will, in a pinch, to make something work.
It is not aptosid's problem here. I just sometimes ask my machine to fly to high to soon.
Thank you for your clues, muchan... that led me to check the origin of the package. It is not from an aptosid or Debian repository. Definitely mystery meat as it were.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 30.09.2011, 10:33



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still (tested just now with official german repos) problem with dist-upgrade here.

      Code:
# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  deskbar-applet glipper libpulse-browse0 python-gtk-vnc virt-manager
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gir1.2-cogl-1.0 gir1.2-coglpango-1.0 libcogl-common libcogl-pango0 libcogl5
  libexpat1-dev libpython2.7 python2.7 python2.7-dev python2.7-minimal rtkit
The following packages have been kept back:
  gnome-utils
The following packages will be upgraded:
  duplicity gir1.2-clutter-1.0 gir1.2-gtksource-3.0 gnome-dvb-client
  gnome-dvb-daemon gnome-system-monitor libclutter-1.0-0 libclutter-1.0-common
  libgnome-keyring0 libgtksourceview-3.0-0 libgtksourceview-3.0-common
  libp11-kit0 libperl5.12 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libreoffice
  libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common
  libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-emailmerge
  libreoffice-filter-binfilter libreoffice-filter-mobiledev libreoffice-gnome
  libreoffice-gtk libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math
  libreoffice-ogltrans libreoffice-pdfimport libreoffice-report-builder-bin
  libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-style-tango libreoffice-writer
  libsoup-gnome2.4-1 libsoup2.4-1 libtdb1 libunique-3.0-0 libwps-0.2-2 perl
  perl-base perl-modules pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat
  pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-x11
  pulseaudio-module-zeroconf pulseaudio-utils python python-dev python-gudev
  python-mako python-minimal python-qt4 python-uno ttf-opensymbol uno-libs3
  ure



so its not a repo sync problem.

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dpdt1, this is a gnome/gconf problem, and not related to this warning. Feel free to post it in "Software".
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well virt-manager and duplicity are to be removed if i upgrade python. so its not gnome/gconf related.
original post was about gimp after all..

anyway, i dont want to get into this gnome flamewar.
just made a remark that python transition still has problems.

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dpdt1, no flame war intended.
virt-manager depends on gconf. Yes, duplicity is just a python based thingy not in sync with recent changes with Debian sid. It is not the only one, the maintainence quality of python based apps in Debian does vary a lot. However, we do "Upgrade Warnings" only for stuff we include in our releases, and for most common applications - which duplicity and virt-manager defintitely are not.
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virt-manager depends on gconf2 and this would not be the problem.
The problem is the dep on python-gtk-vnc, which is not installable since the update to python2.7.
 
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towo:
Agreed

See the following and check how many are not installable because of the python upgrade to 2.7

http://edos.debian.net/edos-debcheck/re ... 6/list.php

No really python fault however as the upgrade has been in the offing for many months.
 
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