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Post subject: oss4  PostPosted: 17.11.2011, 23:47



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Hi All,

I just installed aptosid today and everything went well but I am having trouble installing oss4. This is important to me because I am a musician and I have a nice sound card and some high end stereo equipment and oss4 definitely sounds better than alsa (at least on my system). When trying to install dkms-oss4 I get the following error:

Selecting previously unselected package dkms.
(Reading database ... 85484 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking dkms (from .../dkms_2.2.0.2-1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package oss4-base.
Unpacking oss4-base (from .../oss4-base_4.2-build2005-1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package oss4-dkms.
Unpacking oss4-dkms (from .../oss4-dkms_4.2-build2005-1_amd64.deb) ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Setting up dkms (2.2.0.2-1) ...
Setting up oss4-base (4.2-build2005-1) ...
Setting up oss4-dkms (4.2-build2005-1) ...
Loading new oss4-4.2-build2005 DKMS files...
First Installation: checking all kernels...
Building only for 3.1.0-1-amd64
Building initial module for 3.1.0-1-amd64
ln: failed to create symbolic link `/var/lib/dkms/oss4/4.2-build2005/source/oss4-4.2-build2005': File exists
Done.
Unloading Open Sound System kernel modules: done (OSS not loaded).
Starting Open Sound System: failed (No kernel modules detected).

does anyone know how to fix this?

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Post subject: RE: oss4  PostPosted: 17.11.2011, 23:48



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We support the kernel's ALSA subsystem, not OSS and certainly not out-of-tree OSS4 - they came way to late to the party.

If you have problems with ALSA, you should work on getting those resolved instead; OSS has stopped mattering in the linux ecosystem ages ago. Removing the last traces of it is actually an accepted release goal for the upcoming Debian wheezy release.
 
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Post subject: RE: oss4  PostPosted: 18.11.2011, 01:13



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You're better off using a tarball from the opensound site or building from the mercurial repo. If you have issues, post to the OSS forum (the admin named 'cesium' uses Debian).
In my experience, Debian devs don't care about bugs in the repo versions of OSS4.
 
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      Quote:
We support the kernel's ALSA subsystem, not OSS and certainly not out-of-tree OSS4


oss4 is in the repositories and it works and installs perfectly well in debian stable. Why bother to include it if the installation script doesn't work?

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f you have problems with ALSA, you should work on getting those resolved instead


The only problem that I have with alsa is the inferior sound quality.

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You're better off using a tarball from the opensound site or building from the mercurial repo.


Thanks, Ill give that a try.

I'm also not sure why this post was moved to aptosid.com Forum Index » Experimental Forums » User Scripts & Dragons oss4, This is in the standard repositories and has nothing to do with user scripts!
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.11.2011, 03:02



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The reason is because Aptosid team only supports ALSA as it is the default in Debian

      frabato56 wrote:
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We support the kernel's ALSA subsystem, not OSS and certainly not out-of-tree OSS4


oss4 is in the repositories and it works and installs perfectly well in debian stable. Why bother to include it if the installation script doesn't work?

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f you have problems with ALSA, you should work on getting those resolved instead


The only problem that I have with alsa is the inferior sound quality.

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You're better off using a tarball from the opensound site or building from the mercurial repo.


Thanks, Ill give that a try.

I'm also not sure why this post was moved to aptosid.com Forum Index » Experimental Forums » User Scripts & Dragons oss4, This is in the standard repositories and has nothing to do with user scripts!
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.11.2011, 10:27
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      Quote:

oss4 is in the repositories and it works and installs perfectly well in debian stable. Why bother to include it if the installation script doesn't work?


If you have noticed, aptosid is based on sid (unstable) not stable Wink

      Code:
piper@x1:~$ apt-cache policy oss4
N: Unable to locate package oss4

Not to say that anything works or not, especially in sid
      Code:
piper@x1:~$ apt-cache search oss4
liboss4-salsa-asound2 - OSS to Alsa compatibility library - binary compatibility symlink
liboss4-salsa-dev - OSS to Alsa compatibility library -- development files
liboss4-salsa2 - OSS to Alsa compatibility library
oss4-base - Open Sound System - base package
oss4-dev - Open Sound System - development files
oss4-dkms - Open Sound System - DKMS module sources
oss4-gtk - Open Sound System - simple GTK2-based mixer control

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.11.2011, 11:46



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      piper wrote:
If you have noticed, aptosid is based on sid (unstable) not stable

for information only:
      Code:
apt-cache policy oss4-base oss4-dev oss4-dkms oss4-gtk liboss4-salsa2 liboss4-salsa-dev liboss4-salsa-asound2
liboss4-salsa-asound2:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4.2-build2005-1
  Version table:
     4.2-build2005-1 0
        990 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
liboss4-salsa2:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4.2-build2005-1
  Version table:
     4.2-build2005-1 0
        990 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
liboss4-salsa-dev:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4.2-build2005-1
  Version table:
     4.2-build2005-1 0
        990 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
oss4-base:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4.2-build2005-1
  Version table:
     4.2-build2005-1 0
        990 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
oss4-dev:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4.2-build2005-1
  Version table:
     4.2-build2005-1 0
        990 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
oss4-dkms:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4.2-build2005-1
  Version table:
     4.2-build2005-1 0
        990 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
oss4-gtk:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4.2-build2005-1
  Version table:
     4.2-build2005-1 0
        990 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages

see also: http://packages.debian.org/search?lang=en&searchon=names&keywords=oss4

there are only 7 oss4 packages in Debian, all packages are in sid. The question is: what's wrong using packages from sid?

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.11.2011, 12:47
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      Mr.Klijn wrote:
... there are only 7 oss4 packages in Debian, all packages are in sid. The question is: what's wrong using packages from sid?
Nothing.
However, slh did explain the status of oss very well. It is a dead horse. Sticking to it will lead to more and more problems, specially when using Aptosid/Debian. If you have problems with Alsa, get involved, write bug reports, help making it better.
Greetings,
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