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Post subject:   PostPosted: 23.12.2011, 21:21



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      piper wrote:
IMHO iceweasel/firefox has been slow since after phoenix, phoenix kicked ass.

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Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0a1) Gecko/20111223 Firefox/12.0a1 ID:20111223032107
at the moment, I have no problems with speed, addons, themes (at least the ones I normally use)


I remember Phoenix rising from the ashes of Netscape and becoming Firebird. Did you run it on linux?

I'm now using Google Chrome 16.0.912.63, Icecat 7.0.1-0precise1 and Dillo 3.0.2-1. Dillo's the fastest GUI browser in the world. Chrome's pretty fast, so is Icecat, but it still takes 15 seconds to start.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 23.12.2011, 23:35



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Extensions take time to initialize as well so the fastest you can get is in safe-mode or a bare profile that has no extensions installed.
 
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      DeepDayze wrote:
Extensions take time to initialize as well so the fastest you can get is in safe-mode or a bare profile that has no extensions installed.

yeah, but 15 seconds? and it it took that long the very first time I started it.

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      powdered.toast.man wrote:
      DeepDayze wrote:
Extensions take time to initialize as well so the fastest you can get is in safe-mode or a bare profile that has no extensions installed.

yeah, but 15 seconds? and it it took that long the very first time I started it.


did you start it with the default profile or the one you have set up with your extensions and such

I generally create a profile for my daily browsing needs while leaving the default profile as a fallback
 
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tried
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icecat --profilemanager

and created the "Default User" profile then clicked "Start Gnu Icecat"
after 15 seconds it started to load, 15 seconds after it started it loaded for a total of 30 seconds.

BTW Merry Christmas

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Something's wrong, don't know what; the only information I've to offer is that it takes mere seconds to start up Iceweasel here and get the default homepage (currently Google.com over https) to load. It would be (a little) nice perhaps if I could point you to an existing bug and a message from the devs that they're taking care of it but it seems it's something with your system alone.

You can disable IPv6 for Iceweasel/Firefox through the method in DonKult's first reply but I doubt it will make a noticeable difference, let alone shave off 10 seconds or more. I think Iceweasel's start-up should be acceptable by default on any system without optimization and your start-up times don't really qualify as acceptable here imho.

Starting Iceweasel has something to do with the speed of the storage (hard disk), memory (amount free & speed), video driver. When there was an unfortunate change in the xorg recently, it made my desktop apps slower to start too. Are your complaints exclusively about the responsiveness of Firefox or is it a general issue? Have you tried changing video driver, freeing up memory? Does dmesg show errors?

I understand Arch behave as it should and it runs on the same hardware. Things to try: hook up your system via a cable to determine if the problem sits in the wireless. Boot into Arch and ping a few websites, do the same with aptosid and see whether Iceweasel has anything to do with the issue or if it's a general networking problem.
 
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I ran dmesg an attatched the konsole output.

I always start with a blank page. I don't have any proprietary video drivers installed and I have "nomodeset" in my kernel options.

Chrome, Dillo and Konqueror start very quickly. It just seems to be the gecko engine browser that take a long time to start.



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dmesg output

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 26.12.2011, 21:41
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Did you use your .mozilla from another distro ?

If you really want to figure this out
      Code:
apt-get remove --purge iceweasel


remove the .mozilla folder in your home (back it up first)

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apt-get install iceweasel

open it once and close it, then reopen it, keep it naked (no addons, themes, etc ...)

Is it still slow ?

If not install addons, themes one at a time (closing and restarting iceweasel after each install

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I remember Phoenix rising from the ashes of Netscape and becoming Firebird. Did you run it on linux?
Yes, I did

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      piper wrote:


If you really want to figure this out
      Code:
apt-get remove --purge iceweasel


remove the .mozilla folder in your home (back it up first)

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apt-get install iceweasel

open it once and close it, then reopen it, keep it naked (no addons, themes, etc ...)

Is it still slow ?

Yes it is still slow.

      piper wrote:

Did you use your .mozilla from another distro ?

No I didn't use ~/.mozilla from another distro

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I have to agree with CaesarTjalbo "Something's wrong, don't know what"

all my distro's (all debian) iceweasel runs fine (except my main box which runs firefox nightly 12.0a1)

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I have finally got iceweasel startup time down to less than 1 second. I reinstalled my OS. This time I didn't install any other browsers besides iceweasel and seems to start right up immediately. Could it have something to do with checking to see if it is the default browser?

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