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22 Post subject: [SOLVED]2011-03, xorg 11, nouveau, mx440SE  PostPosted: 07.01.2012, 16:22



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hi happy new year to all

just installed aptosid 2011-03 xfce version on an "old" box
(sempron 2800 1Go nvidia440mx)

as always Aptosid surprises me with its facility to install (quick-clean-stable)

this box is supposed to serve as a multimedia source (audio and video from internet and from usb keys or other mobile things)connected to a crt tv via svideo on the mx440se

the problem is that i cannot get nouveau displaying the svideo on the tv, when i go to paramaters->display i can see the tv recognised, but if i validate the check box i get the tv out diplayed on the monitor (on top of monitor display !)

i suppose there is something to change in the xorg.conf but i really do not know what and i was unable to find an answer wandering around on internet, since there are so many controversial/outdates propositions

so if somebody would be kind enough to help i would greatly appreciate !!!

(see my screenshots here :http://www.imagup.com/data/1140618797.html

and here :http://www.imagup.com/data/1140618921.html)

also here is my xorg.conf : (created after installation while trying to install nvidia driver with s**i)

      Quote:
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
Screen 2 "Screen2" RightOf "Screen1"
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
FontPath "built-ins"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "record"
Load "extmod"
# Load "dri"
Load "glx"
Load "dri2"
Load "dbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor1"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor2"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz",
### <percent>: "<f>%"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "HWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "VideoKey" #
#Option "WrappedFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "GLXVBlank" # [<bool>]
#Option "ZaphodHeads" # <str>
#Option "PageFlip" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "nouveau"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz",
### <percent>: "<f>%"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "Rotate" # <str>
#Option "fbdev" # <str>
#Option "debug" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card1"
Driver "nouveau"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz",
### <percent>: "<f>%"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "DefaultRefresh" # [<bool>]
#Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card2"
Driver "nouveau"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Card1"
Monitor "Monitor1"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen2"
Device "Card2"
Monitor "Monitor2"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection



Section "Extensions"
# Option "Composite" "disable"
# Option "RENDER" "disable"
EndSection




thanks for your suggestions.


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Post subject: RE: 2011-03, xorg 11, nouveau, nvidia legacy 96.43.20, mx440  PostPosted: 07.01.2012, 16:42
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I don't know about nouveau, and its been awhile since I used 2 monitors but my setup (last I used was april) using nvidia blob was like this.

This is my working x.org with two monitors, will play games, watch movies fullscreen on right monitor only.

      Code:
# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings: version 1.0 (buildd@yellow) Fri Apr 9 11:51:21 UTC 2011


Section "ServerLayout"

Identifier "Layout0"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
Option "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# generated from default
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# generated from default
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"

# HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Acer"
ModelName "Acer V223W"
HorizSync 30.0 - 83.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor1"
VendorName "Samsung"
ModelName "Samsung SyncMaster"
HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Device0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
BoardName "GeForce 8800 GTS 512"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Device1"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
BoardName "GeForce 8800 GTS 512"
BusID "PCI:2:0:0"
Screen 1
EndSection

Section "Screen"

Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Device0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Option "TwinView" "1"
Option "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0"
Option "metamodes" "CRT-0: 1680x1050 +1600+0, CRT-1: 1600x1200 +0+0; CRT-0: 1680x1050 +0+0, CRT-1: NULL"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Device1"
Monitor "Monitor1"
DefaultDepth 24
Option "TwinView" "0"
Option "metamodes" "CRT-1: 1600x1200 +0+0"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Don't know if this will help you at all, but posted anyways

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Post subject: RE: 2011-03, xorg 11, nouveau, nvidia legacy 96.43.20, mx440  PostPosted: 07.01.2012, 17:36
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Maybe the link denoted in the manual helps: http://manual.aptosid.com/en/hw-dev-mon ... mon-binary

(i have only intel-cards or similar binary-free cards in my systems)

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Post subject: RE: 2011-03, xorg 11, nouveau, nvidia legacy 96.43.20, mx440  PostPosted: 07.01.2012, 23:07
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http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix suggests that tv-out support is a "work in progress" (though it looks like that part hasn't been updated in a long time).

I presume you tried using xrandr? I'd suggest to boot the live system, run xrandr and just use it to try and enable the tv-out. If it works then you start digging into configuring it permanently.

If it doesn't work straight away, maybe you will "just" need to do something to get it into the right mode, e.g. look at the bottom of http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/KernelModeSetting

(I also have no nvidia stuff myself)
 
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hi Piper, Bfree and DonKult.

thanks for all your suggestions. i will digg this very week and give a result later
i was thinking of trying to modify some of xorg.conf parts and will look closer to piper's xorg.conf for that

since i was not aware of manual pages suggested by DonKult i have also quite a lot to dig there... and other links mentionned.

anyways, many thanks and see you later,

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ok here i am :

i installed lxrandr (because i am using xfce4) and ran it :
tv out is recognised, but when i validate it via the check box i have the same superimposition of tv out on the main screen (as mentionned earlier when using the display control from settings manager)

links given don't gave me any clarity, helas. i think effectively tv out is a work in progress for this card :

(http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix)

      Quote:

7 - nv0x-nv2x (nv17-nv19 excluded) need an external, third-party manufactured TV encoder. Only some Chrontel branded chips are currently supported.


mx 440 SE is nv17 based so it should be ok ? but marked as work in progress in the "feature matrix"...


so i must find a way to use nvidia blob driver from an ancient xfce based aptosid (hum hum don't you throw me stones) OR,

other track i will try to follow is to edit xorg.conf but i still do not understand clearly wich part could tell that output for tv is not to be sent to main monitor !!! i would be gratefull of suggestions about that. What do you think ?

still searching, thanks,

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I'd try xrandr on the command line. It might offer you some clues that are being hidden by the gui (and just maybe the gui is buggy or not suitable for tv-outs).
 
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hi

      bfree wrote:
I'd try xrandr on the command line. It might offer you some clues that are being hidden by the gui (and just maybe the gui is buggy or not suitable for tv-outs).


Thanks, i'm in it since yersterday

been reading a lot about xrandr and there is no change for now

i am currently trying to make command line options clearer to me in understanding what is doing what...

next : xrandr --verbose output

      Quote:

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
VGA-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (0x53) normal (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
Identifier: 0x51
Timestamp: 22091
Subpixel: unknown
Gamma: 1.0:1.0:1.0
Brightness: 1.0
Clones:
CRTC: 0
CRTCs: 0 1
Transform: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
filter:
1024x768 (0x53) 65.0MHz -HSync -VSync *current
h: width 1024 start 1048 end 1184 total 1344 skew 0 clock 48.4KHz
v: height 768 start 771 end 777 total 806 clock 60.0Hz
800x600 (0x54) 40.0MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 800 start 840 end 968 total 1056 skew 0 clock 37.9KHz
v: height 600 start 601 end 605 total 628 clock 60.3Hz
800x600 (0x55) 36.0MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 800 start 824 end 896 total 1024 skew 0 clock 35.2KHz
v: height 600 start 601 end 603 total 625 clock 56.2Hz
848x480 (0x56) 33.8MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 848 start 864 end 976 total 1088 skew 0 clock 31.0KHz
v: height 480 start 486 end 494 total 517 clock 60.0Hz
640x480 (0x57) 25.2MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width 640 start 656 end 752 total 800 skew 0 clock 31.5KHz
v: height 480 start 489 end 492 total 525 clock 59.9Hz
TV-1 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Identifier: 0x52
Timestamp: 22091
Subpixel: unknown
Clones:
CRTCs: 0 1
Transform: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
filter:
overscan: 50 (0x00000032) range: (0,100)
hue: 0 (0x00000000) range: (0,100)
saturation: 50 (0x00000032) range: (0,100)
flicker reduction: 50 (0x00000032) range: (0,100)
mode: PAL
supported: PAL PAL-M PAL-N PAL-Nc
NTSC-M NTSC-J
subconnector: SVIDEO
supported: Unknown Composite SVIDEO Component
SCART
select subconnector: Automatic
supported: Automatic Composite SVIDEO Component
SCART
720x576 (0x58) 28.7MHz -HSync -VSync +preferred
h: width 720 start 776 end 856 total 960 skew 0 clock 29.9KHz
v: height 576 start 576 end 588 total 597 clock 50.0Hz
1024x768 (0x59) 54.2MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width 1024 start 1064 end 1200 total 1344 skew 0 clock 40.3KHz
v: height 768 start 768 end 777 total 806 clock 50.0Hz
800x600 (0x5a) 32.1MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 800 start 840 end 920 total 1040 skew 0 clock 30.9KHz
v: height 600 start 600 end 604 total 618 clock 50.0Hz
720x480 (0x5b) 25.2MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width 720 start 752 end 872 total 960 skew 0 clock 26.2KHz
v: height 480 start 480 end 493 total 525 clock 50.0Hz
640x480 (0x5c) 23.1MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width 640 start 672 end 768 total 880 skew 0 clock 26.2KHz
v: height 480 start 480 end 492 total 525 clock 50.0Hz
400x300 (0x5d) 20.1MHz +HSync +VSync DoubleScan
h: width 400 start 432 end 496 total 640 skew 0 clock 31.4KHz
v: height 300 start 300 end 303 total 314 clock 100.0Hz
320x240 (0x5e) 14.7MHz -HSync -VSync DoubleScan
h: width 320 start 344 end 392 total 560 skew 0 clock 26.3KHz
v: height 240 start 240 end 246 total 263 clock 100.0Hz
320x200 (0x5f) 12.3MHz -HSync -VSync DoubleScan
h: width 320 start 344 end 392 total 560 skew 0 clock 22.0KHz
v: height 200 start 200 end 202 total 220 clock 100.0Hz


xrandr --output TV-1 --off puts crtc to "empty"
xrandr --output TV-1 --auto puts crtc to "1"

when set to 1 tv out is displayed on the monitor, not on the tv, in superimposition to monitor display (as usual bouhouhou...)

apoG
 
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If you had installed the closed source Nvidia driver before (and specially if you used some script to do so), you need to have a recent system and kernel, and exactly follow step by step my HoTow in order to get a properly working Nouveau. Please do so, and report again. Your card does ok with video out, I have used the same in the past on an older laptop.
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      slam wrote:
If you had installed the closed source Nvidia driver before (and specially if you used some script to do so), you need to have a recent system and kernel, and exactly follow step by step my HoTow in order to get a properly working Nouveau. Please do so, and report again. Your card does ok with video out, I have used the same in the past on an older laptop.
Greetings,
Chris


hi Chris

i've been cleaning everything following your howto, things remains exactly the same, svideo out displayed on top of my monitor display, nothing on tv. Did't tried to install nvidia driver by now but i suppose things will not change since that driver is not compatible with latest xorg version.

if you think a dump of my logs (and wich) would give more infos let me know i can paste somewhere.

i'm about to try and install previous aptosid (aptosid 2011-01-xfce4)to see if this enables me to use the nvidia 96-43-20 driver. This is not making me happy but i want to use this stuff now. (Crying or Very sad)

cheers,

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hi to all

i'm afraid the trouble came from hardware : i was using a s-video cable connected to a scart adapter on an old tv. After moving to a more recent tv with a s-video connector, the tv out started to work straight forward without any kind of manipulations, and i feel slightly ashame for this... Should have checked those cable/adapters connections at first...

it seems using s-video + scart adapter is'nt a good idea though... i had checked the connexion between s-video cable and scart connector, from web pages, and they where good, but probably the scart input on the tv was not dealing with chrominance and luminance signals correctly...

also i want to mention that the gxine on the default install of 2011-03 xfce version
is not working on my install (before any upgrade of system) (segt error)

thanks again for your patience

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S-video and composite signals are not identical, but close enough that many manufacturers (especially adaptors without active converter) treat them the same. While many devices don't care, others don't accept these as valid input.
 
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hi slh
after trying a couple of (old) tvs i must admit only real s-video connectors will give a result,
scart input definately don't work with "passive" s-video -> scart adapter.

On the other hand, mx 440 se works fine with aptosid wich is good news !

i'm now starting to look for lirc configuration to use an "old" remote from a pinnacle pctv
card, it was shipped with a serial receiver, it seems lirc.conf for it is available
at http://lircconfig.commandir.com/ but at the moment the receiver is'nt recognised and i am trying to understand
how to fix this, any suggestion will be welcome (/proc/bus/input/devices do not show the receiver) in case
you have any (i am lost beetween several docs and reading aptosid forum did not helped yet)

thanks,

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CommandIR is only used for USB receivers - but if you mention pctvsat and serial, I'm reminded of something like http://www.mjk-trading.de/bilder/produkte/gross/1962_1.jpg.

If that is the case, you need the "pinsys" userspace driver for lirc (part of the normal lirc packages).

Needed packages: lirc
must not be installed/ purge: setserial

/etc/lirc/hardware.conf:
      Code:
# /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
#
# Arguments which will be used when launching lircd
LIRCD_ARGS=""

#Don't start lircmd even if there seems to be a good config file
#START_LIRCMD=false

#Don't start irexec, even if a good config file seems to exist.
#START_IREXEC=false

#Try to load appropriate kernel modules
LOAD_MODULES=false

# Run "lircd --driver=help" for a list of supported drivers.
DRIVER="pinsys"
# usually /dev/lirc0 is the correct setting for systems using udev
DEVICE="/dev/ttyS0"
MODULES=""

# Default configuration files for your hardware if any
LIRCD_CONF=""
LIRCMD_CONF=""


/etc/lirc/lircd.conf:
      Code:

# Please make this file available to others
# by sending it to <lirc>
#
# this config file was automatically generated
# using lirc-0.9.0(pinsys) on Tue Jan 24 17:25:42 2012
#
# contributed by
#
# brand:                       Pinnacle Systems
# model no. of remote control: PCTV Remote
# devices being controlled by this remote: serial/pinsys
#

begin remote

  name  PinnacleSysPCTVRemote
  bits           16
  eps            30
  aeps          100

  one             0     0
  zero            0     0
  pre_data_bits   8
  pre_data       0xFE
  gap          83506
  toggle_bit_mask 0x0

      begin codes
          KEY_1                    0x9F31   # 1
          KEY_2                    0x3D32   # 2
          KEY_3                    0xEC33   # 3
          KEY_POWER                0x2D2F   # off
          KEY_4                    0xA834   # 4
          KEY_5                    0x7935   # 5
          KEY_6                    0xDB36   # 6
          KEY_EPG                  0xFC2E   # P
          KEY_7                    0x0A37   # 7
          KEY_8                    0x5338   # 8
          KEY_9                    0x8239   # 9
          KEY_TV                   0x631F   # L
          KEY_SUBTITLE             0x5E2D   # Fullscreen
          KEY_0                    0x203A   # 0
          KEY_ZOOM                 0xB21E   # Zoom
          KEY_INFO                 0xCB2B   # I
          KEY_VOLUMEUP             0x851B   # Vol. +
          KEY_MUTE                 0xB53C   # Mute
          KEY_PREVIOUS             0x4325   # Ch. last
          KEY_CHANNELUP            0x7E17   # Ch. +
          KEY_VOLUMEDOWN           0x590F   # Vol. -
          KEY_UP                   0x173F   # up
          KEY_LEFT                 0x643D   # left
          KEY_OK                   0x541A   # ok
          KEY_RIGHT                0xF13B   # right
          KEY_MENU                 0x101D   # Menu
          KEY_DOWN                 0xC63E   # down
          KEY_NEXT                 0xF619   # next
          KEY_BACK                 0xAF16   # undo
          KEY_RECORD               0x3027   # Rec.
          KEY_PAUSE                0x0D15   # pause
          KEY_REDO                 0x9813   # redo
          KEY_REWIND               0x880E   # rewind
          KEY_PLAY                 0x2A0D   # play
          KEY_STOP                 0xBF0B   # stop
          KEY_FORWARD              0x4407   # fastforward
          KEY_RED                  0xE126   # TV
          KEY_GREEN                0xB829   # Teletext
          KEY_YELLOW               0x1A2A   # Radio
          KEY_BLUE                 0x2718   # EPG
      end codes

end remote


(be aware that the lowest row (TV, Teletext, Radio, EPG) has been redefined to be used as colour keys (red, green, yellow, blue), with P (EPG), L (TV), I (Info) on the top right taking over).

…or create your own lircd.conf with ("/etc/init.d/lirc stop" first):
      Code:
irrecord -H pinsys -d /dev/ttyS0 /etc/lirc/lircd.conf

use "irw" (as user) to confirm your key configuration.

(but this would have been better suited for a new thread --> easier to find)
 
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