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Post subject: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 23.02.2012, 18:19
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Hello:
I am running the following:
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Linux siduxbox 3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Feb 22 17:08:29 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce Go 7600] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
I am having a problem installing nouveau.
I followed the directions in
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http://aptosid.com/index.php?module=wikula&tag=GoNvidia
as closely as possible to convert to nouveau from nvidia drivers.
But, something is wrong. I get a desktop but with a vga screen, and it's terrible. There is extremely limited functionality.
I think that
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If using KDE, in System Settings turn desktop effects composite type to "Xrender" (keeping OpenGL there might lead to KDE not starting with certain desktop effects active).
is happing too. Since, I don't have any kde functionality, I don't know how to execute the "Xrender" command.
Here are some problems:
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Remove all vga=xxx and xmodule=xxx entries from /etc/default/grub, and do update-grub.
Reboot.
But, here are the contents of the
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/etc/default/grub
GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="vga=792 splash quiet"
Obviously the
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GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="vga=792 splash quiet"
line leads to the wierd desk top. But how to change this? The instructions say to remove the vga entry. If I do that, the system boots with no X and no desktop. The instructions do not say what to have in here. Trust me, I changed this entry, and I got into a situation where the system would boot and shut down immdeiately.
I had to use a rescue disk with chroot to fix this entry and run
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update-grub
to fix things.
I need help here.
2) Do I need an
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/etc/X11/xorg.conf
file with nouveau?
In the xorg.conf file, there is an entry which used to have "nvidia", and I changed it to "nouveau".
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Section "Device"
Identifier "Device0"
Driver "nouveau"
Option "Coolbits" "1"
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
Option "TripleBuffer" "false"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection
This doesn't work. I must comment out the line that has
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Driver "nouveau"
, otherwise I get no X and no desktop.
Why is this?
The nouveau Wiki indicates that I can have an entry such as the above.
I need help here too.
3) Full disclosure:
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WARNING: Your results will vary if you ever have used the installer from Nvidia (the .run file) or other 3rd party scripts/packages, instead of using proper Debian packages!
I did do this.
But, ALL my dist upgrades were done with
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apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
Can someone please help with this?
Kind regards,
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Post subject: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 23.02.2012, 18:55
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you have deinstalled all the nVidia things?
if yes did you tried to start X without an xorg.conf at all? |
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Post subject: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 23.02.2012, 18:59
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nouveau (just like intel or radeon) requires modesetting to be enabled, so drop "nomodeset", "nouveau.modeset=0" and "vga=792" from /etc/default/grub with your favourite editor (while you're at it, drop "splash" as well, which has no functionality either) and run update-grub. Furthermore delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure that nouveau is not blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/ (delete any files trying to do so). Make sure that all non-free nvidia packages are purged from your system, because they replace the proper mesa opengl libraries with their own (incompatible) implementation. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 24.02.2012, 15:01
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Dear slh and x-un-i:
x-un-i wrote:
you have deinstalled all the nVidia things?
if yes did you tried to start X without an xorg.conf at all?
Thank you for your reply.
When I use the command
[code]dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia[code]
I don't get any hits. I can be sure, but I think all nvidia stuff is purged.
Right now, I am stymied. I get a desktop, but it is severly constrained. One thing I need is the icon to configure a display. It's gone. I try a testby plugging in a second monitor, and I get nothing.
I need this feature for Monday to plugin an overhead projector to teach a class.
Most of kde functionality is not there.
Thank you again, and if there are more suggestion for me to try, please let me know.
Note to n-un-i: your suggestions did not help. when I implemented them, I got random characters on the screen and no display. Thank you for your help too.
Kind regards,
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 24.02.2012, 15:36
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Try not to use any device section in your xorg.conf. It's simply not needed.
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Post subject: Re: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 24.02.2012, 17:27
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slh wrote:
nouveau (just like intel or radeon) requires modesetting to be enabled, so drop "nomodeset", "nouveau.modeset=0" and "vga=792" from /etc/default/grub with your favourite editor (while you're at it, drop "splash" as well, which has no functionality either) and run update-grub. Furthermore delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure that nouveau is not blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/ (delete any files trying to do so). Make sure that all non-free nvidia packages are purged from your system, because they replace the proper mesa opengl libraries with their own (incompatible) implementation.
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Post subject: Re: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 25.02.2012, 19:12
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[quote="x-un-i"]
slh wrote:
nouveau (just like intel or radeon) requires modesetting to be enabled, so drop "nomodeset", "nouveau.modeset=0" and "vga=792" from /etc/default/grub with your favourite editor (while you're at it, drop "splash" as well, which has no functionality either) and run update-grub. Furthermore delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure that nouveau is not blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/ (delete any files trying to do so). Make sure that all non-free nvidia packages are purged from your system, because they replace the proper mesa opengl libraries with their own (incompatible) implementation.
Did you follow this advice?
Hello:
Here is what I have so far:
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root@siduxbox:~# ls /etc/X11
app-defaults xorg.conf.backup2
cursors xorg.conf-bu-2012-02-22-17:03:35
default-display-manager xorg.conf-bu-rossi
fluxbox Xreset
fonts Xreset.d
mwm Xresources
rgb.txt Xsession
X Xsession.d
xinit Xsession.options
xkb XvMCConfig
xorg.conf.backup Xwrapper.config
xorg.conf.backup1
so no xorg.conf file.
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root@siduxbox:~# dpkg -l | grep nvidia
root@siduxbox:~#
so it seems as if the nvidia stuff is purged.
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root@siduxbox:~# ls /etc/modprobe.d/
aliases.conf kms-sg-blacklist.conf
alsa-base-blacklist.conf libpisock9.conf
alsa-base.conf linux-sound-base_noOSS.conf
dkms.conf oss-compat.conf
fbdev-blacklist.conf radeon-kms.conf
i915-kms.conf ueagle-atm.conf
root@siduxbox:~# cd /etc/modprobe.d/
root@siduxbox:/etc/modprobe.d# grep -i nouveau *
kms-sg-blacklist.conf:# blacklist nouveau
so I commented out the black listing of nouveau.
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root@siduxbox:/etc/modprobe.d# locate nvidia
/lib/modules/3.2-7.slh.1-aptosid-686/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko
/lib/modules/3.2-7.slh.1-aptosid-686/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia
/lib/modules/3.2-7.slh.1-aptosid-686/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/forcedeth.ko
/lib/modules/3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko
/lib/modules/3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia
/lib/modules/3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/forcedeth.ko
/usr/lib/libkwinnvidiahack.so.4
/usr/lib/libkwinnvidiahack.so.4.6.0
/usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/21-video-quirk-nvidia.fdi
/usr/share/modass/packages/nvidia-kernel-source
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.1-aptosid-686/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.1-aptosid-686/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/Kconfig
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.1-aptosid-686/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/Makefile
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.1-aptosid-686/drivers/video/nvidia
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.1-aptosid-686/drivers/video/nvidia/Makefile
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.1-aptosid-686/include/config/agp/nvidia.h
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.1-aptosid-686/include/config/net/vendor/nvidia.h
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/Kconfig
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686/drivers/net/ethernet/nvidia/Makefile
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686/drivers/video/nvidia
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686/drivers/video/nvidia/Makefile
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686/include/config/agp/nvidia.h
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686/include/config/net/vendor/nvidia.h
/var/log/nvidia-installer.log
Is there anything found with the locate command that I should take care of?
Now the /etc/default/grub file:
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# If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update
# /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="vga=792 splash quiet"
This is way the /etc/fault/grub file now stands.
1) If
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GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
and if
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GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet"
, I get a blank screen with nothing there. The initial screen before X attempt says something like
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failed to find nouveau init table.
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2) With
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GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
the same as above but
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GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="splash quiet"
, the system fails to generate a desktop and X.
3) With
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GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
the same as above but
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GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="vga splash quiet"
, the system windows have random unreadable characters, but it does generate a desktop and X with severely limited KDE.
4)With the system exactly as above, system windows are fine, and a desktop with X is generated, but again with a severly limited KDE.
That is where it stands now.
I appreciate your help and patience.
Warm regards,
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 25.02.2012, 19:28
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do you have a recent aptosid iso ?
i'm rather curious which resolution you get when you boot it.
can you also provide us with the output of infobash -v3 command run in a terminal? |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 25.02.2012, 19:50
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x-un-i wrote:
do you have a recent aptosid iso ?
i'm rather curious which resolution you get when you boot it.
can you also provide us with the output of infobash -v3 command run in a terminal?
No I don't have a recent one, but I could generate one. Would the nouveau drivers activate in an interactive boot?
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root@siduxbox:~# infobash -v3
Host/Kernel/OS "siduxbox" running Linux 3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686 i686 [ sidux 2009-01 Ουρανός - kde-full - (200902151348) ]
CPU Info 2x Intel Core2 T7400 @ 4096 KB cache flags( sse3 ht lm vmx ) clocked at [ 2167.000 MHz ]
Videocard nVidia G73 [GeForce Go 7600] [ ]
Network cards Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit
Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan]
Processes 126 | Uptime 5min | Memory 317.0/2024.7MB | HDD Hitachi HTS54121 Size 100GB (0%used) | Client Shell | Infobash v3.41
With the nvidia drivers, I was getting better resolution than the vga provides.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 25.02.2012, 19:52
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rossiar@siduxbox ~/ $ infobash -v3
Host/Kernel/OS "siduxbox" running Linux 3.2-7.slh.2-aptosid-686 i686 [ sidux 2009-01 Ουρανός - kde-full - (200902151348) ]
CPU Info 2x Intel Core2 T7400 @ 4096 KB cache flags( sse3 ht lm vmx ) clocked at [ 1333.000 MHz ]
Videocard nVidia G73 [GeForce Go 7600] X.Org 1.11.3.901 [ 1024x768@61.0hz ]
Network cards Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit
Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan]
Processes 121 | Uptime 12min | Memory 327.8/2024.7MB | HDD Hitachi HTS54121 Size 100GB (0%used) | GLX Renderer Software Rasterizer | GLX Version Yes | Client Shell | Infobash v3.41
gives the resolution as a normal user. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 25.02.2012, 20:02
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That's not nouveau, that's vesa, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 25.02.2012, 20:23
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towo wrote:
That's not nouveau, that's vesa, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
OK. I will check this.
But, how did this happen? How can I stop it from happening? Why didn't it pick up the nouveau drivers. I really appreciate your telling me the potential problem, but can you help to tell me the piece of logic I am missing in fixing this problem? I don't want vga, and I don't want vesa. I want nouveau, but I am having problems fixing this.
Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 25.02.2012, 22:27
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What about the parameters in /etc/default/grub? nomodeset and vga?
I use a Nvidia 7600 card with nouveau and it works. There is no xorg.conf and there are no kernel parameters set.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 28.02.2012, 05:11
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I need some information Can you give me some information about installing Method |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Problem Installing nouveau
Posted: 28.02.2012, 05:40
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