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15 Post subject: (solved) hangs at boot when loading sound module  PostPosted: 20.06.2013, 17:20



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Hi,

after a dist-upgrade today the system hangs in early boot at "populating dev" for several minutes, after which booting proceeds with the message "udevd: timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -bv ...'". Notably, alsa-utils reports an error (no sound card detected) during boot. Hoever, if loading the snd-hda-intel module manually after boot and restarting alsa-utils, sound works again. I have tried booting an earlier kernel as well downgrading oss-compat and initramfs-tools to testing with no luck. Here's a list of what was updated today:
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Start-Date: 2013-06-20  17:16:12
Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade
Install: linux-image-3.9-6.slh.3-aptosid-686:i386 (3.9-24), linux-headers-3.9-6.slh.3-aptosid-686:i386 (3.9-24), libtevent0:i386 (0.9.16-1, automatic)
Upgrade: libreoffice-common:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libp11-kit-dev:i386 (0.12-3, 0.18.3-2), libx11-xcb1:i386 (1.5.0-1+deb7u1, 1.6.0-1), libreoffice-filter-mobiledev:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libxcomposite-dev:i386 (0.4.3-2, 0.4.4-1), libcupsmime1:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), libreoffice-impress:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libxml2:i386 (2.8.0+dfsg1-7+nmu1, 2.9.1+dfsg1-2), ure:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libreoffice-help-en-us:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libxcb-render0:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libgtk-3-bin:i386 (3.8.2-1, 3.8.2-2), initramfs-tools:i386 (0.112, 0.113), libxcb-glx0:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libx11-data:i386 (1.5.0-1+deb7u1, 1.6.0-1), libcupsimage2:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), libc6-i686:i386 (2.17-5, 2.17-6), multiarch-support:i386 (2.17-5, 2.17-6), libxcb-xfixes0:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libxcb-shape0:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), ballview:i386 (1.4.1+20111206-4+b1, 1.4.1+20111206-4+b2), samba-tools:i386 (3.6.15-1, 3.6.16-1), libxcb-randr0:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libxcomposite1:i386 (0.4.3-2, 0.4.4-1), rsyslog:i386 (7.4.0-1, 7.4.1-1), libnss3:i386 (3.14.3-1, 3.15-1), filezilla-common:i386 (3.5.3-2, 3.7.0.2-1), libgtk-3-0:i386 (3.8.2-1, 3.8.2-2), libreoffice-math:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libxcb-shm0:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libreoffice-calc:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), linux-headers-aptosid-686:i386 (3.9-22, 3.9-24), libpcap0.8:i386 (1.4.0-1, 1.4.0-2), samba:i386 (3.6.15-1, 3.6.16-1), samba-common-bin:i386 (3.6.15-1, 3.6.16-1), cups-bsd:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), fonts-opensymbol:i386 (102.2+LibO4.0.3-3, 102.2+LibO4.0.4-1), libreoffice-l10n-de:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libvlc5:i386 (2.0.7-1, 2.0.7-2), libc6:i386 (2.17-5, 2.17-6), samba-common:i386 (3.6.15-1, 3.6.16-1), libxml2-dev:i386 (2.8.0+dfsg1-7+nmu1, 2.9.1+dfsg1-2), python-qt4:i386 (4.10.1-1, 4.10.2-1), libc6-dev:i386 (2.17-5, 2.17-6), libball1.4:i386 (1.4.1+20111206-4+b1, 1.4.1+20111206-4+b2), python-ball:i386 (1.4.1+20111206-4+b1, 1.4.1+20111206-4+b2), cups:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), filezilla:i386 (3.5.3-2, 3.7.0.2-1), libx11-6:i386 (1.5.0-1+deb7u1, 1.6.0-1), libreoffice-java-common:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), cups-common:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), libsoup2.4-1:i386 (2.42.2-5, 2.42.2-6), libsoup-gnome2.4-1:i386 (2.42.2-5, 2.42.2-6), uno-libs3:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), python-uno:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), locales:i386 (2.17-5, 2.17-6), libsmbclient:i386 (3.6.15-1, 3.6.16-1), libcupsppdc1:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), libxcb-dri2-0:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libhyphen0:i386 (2.8.6-2, 2.8.6-3), libxcb-render0-dev:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libcupscgi1:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), libc-ares2:i386 (1.9.1-3, 1.10.0-2), libreoffice-base:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), linux-image-aptosid-686:i386 (3.9-22, 3.9-24), libsystemd-login0:i386 (44-11, 44-12), libreoffice:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libc-dev-bin:i386 (2.17-5, 2.17-6), python-kde4:i386 (4.8.4-2, 4.8.4-2+b1), libx11-dev:i386 (1.5.0-1+deb7u1, 1.6.0-1), linux-libc-dev:i386 (3.9.5-1, 3.9.6-1), cups-server-common:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), libxml2-utils:i386 (2.8.0+dfsg1-7+nmu1, 2.9.1+dfsg1-2), libreoffice-draw:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libreoffice-base-core:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libatk-bridge2.0-0:i386 (2.9.2-1, 2.9.3-1), gnome-icon-theme:i386 (3.4.0-2, 3.8.2-2), tex-common:i386 (4.03, 4.04), libreoffice-core:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libcups2-dev:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), libgail-3-0:i386 (3.8.2-1, 3.8.2-2), libatspi2.0-0:i386 (2.9.2-1, 2.9.3-1), libx11-xcb-dev:i386 (1.5.0-1+deb7u1, 1.6.0-1), libreoffice-report-builder-bin:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libxaw7:i386 (1.0.10-2, 1.0.11-1), libnss3-1d:i386 (3.14.3-1, 3.15-1), libxcb-glx0-dev:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libxcb-dri2-0-dev:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libreoffice-help-de:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libpulse0:i386 (2.0-6.1, 4.0-3), libfs6:i386 (1.0.4-1+deb7u1, 1.0.5-1), libtiff-tools:i386 (4.0.2-6, 4.0.2-6+nmu1), cmake:i386 (2.8.11-2, 2.8.11.1-1), libreoffice-style-galaxy:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), binutils:i386 (2.23.52.20130612-1, 2.23.52.20130620-1), r-cran-robustbase:i386 (0.9-7-2, 0.9-8-1), libcups2:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), libreoffice-style-oxygen:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), smbclient:i386 (3.6.15-1, 3.6.16-1), libtiff5:i386 (4.0.2-6, 4.0.2-6+nmu1), cups-ppdc:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), vlc:i386 (2.0.7-1, 2.0.7-2), python-sip:i386 (4.14.6-1, 4.14.7-2), libreoffice-kde:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libxcb-xv0:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libnspr4-0d:i386 (4.9.6-1, 4.10-1), libballview1.4:i386 (1.4.1+20111206-4+b1, 1.4.1+20111206-4+b2), libnspr4:i386 (4.9.6-1, 4.10-1), libxcb-shm0-dev:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libc-bin:i386 (2.17-5, 2.17-6), libreoffice-writer:i386 (4.0.3-3, 4.0.4-1), libvlccore5:i386 (2.0.7-1, 2.0.7-2), libxcb1-dev:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libxcb1:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), libwbclient0:i386 (3.6.15-1, 3.6.16-1), libpulse-mainloop-glib0:i386 (2.0-6.1, 4.0-3), java-wrappers:i386 (0.1.25, 0.1.26), libxcb-composite0:i386 (1.9.1-2, 1.9.1-3), cups-daemon:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), python-ballview:i386 (1.4.1+20111206-4+b1, 1.4.1+20111206-4+b2), libp11-kit0:i386 (0.12-3, 0.18.3-2), oss-compat:i386 (2, 3), libgtk-3-common:i386 (3.8.2-1, 3.8.2-2), libfontenc1:i386 (1.1.1-1, 1.1.2-1), cmake-data:i386 (2.8.11-2, 2.8.11.1-1), cups-client:i386 (1.6.2-8, 1.6.2-9), hostname:i386 (3.12, 3.13), at-spi2-core:i386 (2.9.2-1, 2.9.3-1), vlc-data:i386 (2.0.7-1, 2.0.7-2), vlc-nox:i386 (2.0.7-1, 2.0.7-2)
End-Date: 2013-06-20  17:23:41


my system:
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Host/Kernel/OS  "Serenity" running Linux 3.9-6.slh.3-aptosid-686 i686 [ aptosid 2010-02 Κῆρες - kde-lite - (201009132215) ]
CPU Info        2x Intel Core2 Duo T9400 @ 6144 KB cache flags( sse3 ht nx lm vmx ) clocked at [ 2533.000 MHz ]
Videocard       NVIDIA G96M [GeForce 9650M GT]  X.Org 1.12.4  [ 1920x1200@61.7hz ]
Network cards   Realtek RTL8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit
                Intel WiFi Link 5100
Processes 171 | Uptime 17min | Memory 698.5/3041.4MB | HDD ST9250320AS,ST9250320AS Size 500GB (25%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce 9650M GT/PCIe/SSE2 | GLX Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 313.18 | Client Shell | Infobash v3.46


Cheers, Ilinsekt
 
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Post subject: RE: hangs at boot when loading sound module  PostPosted: 20.06.2013, 19:03



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Start debugging with trying to purge oss-compat, which is very error prone and shouldn't be needed (unless you require some very outdated non-free stuff).
 
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Post subject: RE: hangs at boot when loading sound module  PostPosted: 20.06.2013, 20:11



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It worked, I now have sound. I have no idea why oss-compat was even installed. Thanks slh.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 20.06.2013, 20:31



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Same issue here after d-u today; purging oss-compat restored sound
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 20.06.2013, 21:44



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Thanks. Had the same problem and is now fixed.
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Host/Kernel/OS  "aptosidbox" running Linux 3.9-6.slh.3-aptosid-amd64 x86_64 [ aptosid 2010-03 Ἀπάτη - kde-lite - (201012262151) ]
CPU Info        2x AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6000+ 1024 KB cache flags( sse3 ht nx lm svm ) clocked at [ 1000.000 MHz ]
Videocard       NVIDIA G71 [GeForce 7950 GT]  X.Org 1.12.4  [ 1280x1024@60.0hz ]
Network cards   NVIDIA MCP55
Processes 155 | Uptime 2min | Memory 695.2/3016.7MB | HDD WDC WD2500JS-22N Size 250GB (86%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce 7950 GT/PCIe/SSE2 | GLX Version 2.1.2 NVIDIA 304.88 | Client Shell | Infobash v3.46
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 21.06.2013, 09:51



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I DU 30 mins ago and I have the same problem in 32 bit.
Additionally, I have no sound anymore.

EDIT
A relevant error is
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alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 25.06.2013, 15:37



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Same issues here and kicking oss-compat works here too. I don't see why oss-compat should even be a dependency for modern packages that utilize audio, but at least a recommends as most people don't have such old audio cards anymore that even alsa doesn't support. Alsa has come a long way since and it has much better audio hardware support these days
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 25.06.2013, 23:23



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Do you guys get a bunch of stuff removed when you kick oss-compat? I get this:

~$ sudo apt-get remove oss-compat
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
akode arts artsbuilder aumix-common aumix-gtk dcoprss kandy kasablanca
kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs kdelibs4c2a
kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdeprint kdetv kfax kghostview khelpcenter
kio-apt kisdnwatch kmilo knet knutclient kooka kpager kpdf ksvg ksysv
kviewshell kwifimanager leif libarts1-mpeglib libarts1c2a libk3b3
libkbluetooth0 libkcal2b libkcddb1 libkdepim1a libkjsembed1 libkonq4
libkscan1 libktnef1 librss1 lisa mpeglib oss-compat secpolicy
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 47 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
After this operation, 112 MB disk space will be freed.

Not sure whether kdelibs needs to be removed, but kpdf, knutclient, etc. look like they might be useful to me Razz
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 26.06.2013, 00:07



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Most of those is KDE3 stuff, which should have been removed ages ago.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 27.06.2013, 16:39
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      kenyee wrote:
Do you guys get a bunch of stuff removed when you kick oss-compat? I get this:

~$ sudo apt-get remove oss-compat
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
akode arts artsbuilder aumix-common aumix-gtk dcoprss kandy kasablanca
kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs kdelibs4c2a
kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdeprint kdetv kfax kghostview khelpcenter
kio-apt kisdnwatch kmilo knet knutclient kooka kpager kpdf ksvg ksysv
kviewshell kwifimanager leif libarts1-mpeglib libarts1c2a libk3b3
libkbluetooth0 libkcal2b libkcddb1 libkdepim1a libkjsembed1 libkonq4
libkscan1 libktnef1 librss1 lisa mpeglib oss-compat secpolicy
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 47 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
After this operation, 112 MB disk space will be freed.

Not sure whether kdelibs needs to be removed, but kpdf, knutclient, etc. look like they might be useful to me Razz


Wow, I used to love kasablanca Wink

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      piper wrote:
      kenyee wrote:
Do you guys get a bunch of stuff removed when you kick oss-compat? I get this:

~$ sudo apt-get remove oss-compat
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
akode arts artsbuilder aumix-common aumix-gtk dcoprss kandy kasablanca
kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs kdelibs4c2a
kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdeprint kdetv kfax kghostview khelpcenter
kio-apt kisdnwatch kmilo knet knutclient kooka kpager kpdf ksvg ksysv
kviewshell kwifimanager leif libarts1-mpeglib libarts1c2a libk3b3
libkbluetooth0 libkcal2b libkcddb1 libkdepim1a libkjsembed1 libkonq4
libkscan1 libktnef1 librss1 lisa mpeglib oss-compat secpolicy
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 47 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
After this operation, 112 MB disk space will be freed.

Not sure whether kdelibs needs to be removed, but kpdf, knutclient, etc. look like they might be useful to me Razz


Wow, I used to love kasablanca Wink


yeah I miss the KDE 3.5 days...

I removed oss-compat with no problem and no package removals so perhaps kenyee had a rather old KDE setup?
 
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      DeepDayze wrote:

I removed oss-compat with no problem and no package removals so perhaps kenyee had a rather old KDE setup?


More like ancient...from the Sidux days.
System d-u'd w/o problems Smile
 
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