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Post subject: Splashy doesn't really work  PostPosted: 26.09.2010, 23:13



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I've been using sidux/aptosid for a long time without splashy now.
But a few months ago, I wanted to test it - without a great success.
It shows the splash-backround - one good thing -, but doesn't show the progressbar and after a time it hangs somewhere in the boot process, so that I can't really boot.
Without the grub-option "splash" the boot progress works fine.
I am using an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470 Graphicchip.
Maybe I have to add a command in grub...
 
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Post subject: RE: Splashy doesn  PostPosted: 27.09.2010, 01:04



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Thought splashy was not really recommended for aptosid? It never worked well at all anyway
 
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Post subject: RE: Splashy doesn  PostPosted: 27.09.2010, 01:15



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splashy has been known to break LSB initscripts from day one (mysql is a perfect example) and it's still broken; actually with KMS apprearing on stage, the situation has even become worse.

For these reasons, the usage or installation of splashy (or bootsplash) has always been strongly recommended against.
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Splashy doesn  PostPosted: 27.09.2010, 02:17



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      slh wrote:
splashy has been known to break LSB initscripts from day one (mysql is a perfect example) and it's still broken; actually with KMS apprearing on stage, the situation has even become worse.

For these reasons, the usage or installation of splashy (or bootsplash) has always been strongly recommended against.


Yes and it never had worked well since Kanotix days.. definitely it'll only break things even more now

Is it even still being maintained?
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Splashy doesn  PostPosted: 27.09.2010, 06:09



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Does anyone know anything about plymouth, is this becoming a proper graphical 'hide-what-is-going-on-during-boot'?
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 27.09.2010, 10:57



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Better to look what is going on during boot.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 27.09.2010, 14:44



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      snvv wrote:
Better to look what is going on during boot.

Exactly, when a problem occurs during boot and you can't see the error message when it's hidden behind a splashy/bootsplash/Plymouth splashscreen it becomes a frustration
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 27.09.2010, 15:20



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Well, I for one wouldnt mind some splashy thing.
While I want to see whats going on after d-us, most of the time though this is not the case (for me).
So yep, I am curious about the progress of Plymouth as well, and whether a simple keystroke at startup would switch it off and show the verbose mode instead.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 27.09.2010, 15:42



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      phen wrote:
Well, I for one wouldnt mind some splashy thing.
While I want to see whats going on after d-us, most of the time though this is not the case (for me).
So yep, I am curious about the progress of Plymouth as well, and whether a simple keystroke at startup would switch it off and show the verbose mode instead.


I believe a few distros use it and to turn it off there's a nosplash option you add to the grub commandline. Note that Plymouth is still a work in progress and if you use it with aptosid it is unsupported would become your dragon Wink
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 27.09.2010, 16:06



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OK, no problem.
I can live without splashy Wink

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 28.09.2010, 07:02



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Acually I prefer to see what is going on during boot, after years of no way to see what was going on when booting windows...
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Splashy doesn  PostPosted: 28.09.2010, 19:15



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Hi michaaa62,

      michaaa62 wrote:
Does anyone know anything about plymouth, is this becoming a proper graphical 'hide-what-is-going-on-during-boot'?


During the time with Kanotix/sidux/aptosid, I tried all of these bootsplash solutions. Indeed, forget about splashy, bootsplash patches, ...

But, on one laptop with an Intel graphics, I am running:

      Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install plymouth plymouth-themes-all

without any problems so far actually with aptosid. It looks really nice. But seriously consider, this is manipulating your Ramdisk at very first boot up time. So it might break your boot process at any time with future dist-upgrades. Tough, I even did not check if it works with any other propritary graphics driver like nvidea or ATI.

Greetings

Armin

P.S. You may interrupt plymouth at every time during boot process by pressing ESC key.
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Splashy doesn  PostPosted: 28.09.2010, 23:53



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      armin wrote:
Hi michaaa62,

      michaaa62 wrote:
Does anyone know anything about plymouth, is this becoming a proper graphical 'hide-what-is-going-on-during-boot'?


During the time with Kanotix/sidux/aptosid, I tried all of these bootsplash solutions. Indeed, forget about splashy, bootsplash patches, ...

But, on one laptop with an Intel graphics, I am running:

      Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install plymouth plymouth-themes-all

without any problems so far actually with aptosid. It looks really nice. But seriously consider, this is manipulating your Ramdisk at very first boot up time. So it might break your boot process at any time with future dist-upgrades. Tough, I even did not check if it works with any other propritary graphics driver like nvidea or ATI.

Greetings

Armin

P.S. You may interrupt plymouth at every time during boot process by pressing ESC key.


Like with what slh had said above splashy/bootsplash/plymouth messes with your bootscripts and breaks them in nasty ways, so if you use even plymouth you shouldn't expect support for it.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Splashy doesn  PostPosted: 30.12.2010, 02:51



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The boot messages are fine, but I'm daring or foolish enough to test plymouth on Aptosid. So far, version 0.8.3-18 is working with several graphical themes, even with the nvidia driver. I have vga=792 and splash on my linux command line and otherwise all default options in /etc/default/grub.
 
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