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finotti

Post subject: [solved] nvidia-glx to be removed (amd64)

Posted: 10.02.2011, 16:07

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Although the xorg problem seems to be resolved on AMD64, it seems that it still wants to remove nvidia-glx, which I assume could make things slower for users with the binary nvidia driver.

Perhaps this can be fixed by installing the version from experimental, but I have not tried. (I'll just wait.)

Some info:

Code:

root@t510[/home/finotti]# infobash -v3
Host/Kernel/OS "t510" running Linux 2.6.37-0.slh.18-aptosid-amd64 x86_64 [ sidux 2010-01 Ύπνος - kde-full - (201006131622) ]
CPU Info 4x Intel Core i5 M 520 @ 3072 KB cache flags( sse3 ht nx lm vmx ) clocked at [ 2400.000 MHz ]
Videocard nVidia GT218 [NVS 3100M] X.Org 1.7.7 [ 1366x768@50.0hz ]
Network cards Intel 82577LM Gigabit
Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200
Processes 171 | Uptime 2:48 | Memory 1121.9/3829.0MB | HDD ST9320423AS Size 320GB (34%used) | GLX Renderer NVS 3100M/PCI/SSE2 | GLX Version 3.2.0 NVIDIA 195.36.31 | Client Shell | Infobash v3.34

Code:

root@t510[/home/finotti]# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
nvidia-glx openoffice.org-base-core openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-help-en-us
openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-kde openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-style-galaxy openoffice.org-thesaurus-de
openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us openoffice.org-writer
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libccid libfont-ttf-perl libnice10 libpipeline1 libva-x11-1 linux-headers-2.6.37-0.slh.20-aptosid-amd64 linux-image-2.6.37-0.slh.20-aptosid-amd64
pcscd
The following packages have been kept back:
gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
The following packages will be upgraded:
anthy-common apt apt-utils aptosid-archive-keyring aptosid-manual-common aptosid-manual-en aspell base-files bash-completion bluetooth bluez
bluez-pcmcia-support bluez-utils cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc dbus dbus-x11 dctrl-tools debhelper dictionaries-common dpkg
dpkg-dev dselect fancontrol foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine foomatic-filters groff groff-base grub-common grub-pc grub2 gstreamer0.10-nice hal
iproute iso-codes k3b k3b-data kchmviewer ktorrent ktorrent-data libanthy0 libapr1 libaprutil1 libaspell15 libatasmart4 libavahi-client3
libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3 libavahi-glib1 libavahi-qt3-1 libbluetooth3 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i386 libcups2
libcupscgi1 libcupsdriver1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 libdb4.8 libdbus-1-3 libdpkg-perl libdrm-intel1 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2
libfluidsynth1 libgeoip1 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglew1.5 libglib2.0-0 libglu1-mesa libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnutls26
libgpg-error0 libgstfarsight0.10-0 libgudev-1.0-0 libhal-storage1 libhal1 libhunspell-1.2-0 libhyphen0 libk3b6 libk3b6-extracodecs
libktorrent-l10n libktorrent2 liblapack3gf libmms0 libmysqlclient16 libnm-glib2 libnm-util1 liborc-0.4-0 libpciaccess0 libpcre3 libpcsclite1
libpdf-api2-perl libpixman-1-0 libpurple0 libschroedinger-1.0-0 libsensors4 libsmbclient libudev0 libusb-0.1-4 libva1 libvlc5 libvlccore4 libvpx0
libwbclient0 libx11-6 libx11-data libx11-xcb1 libxaw7 libxcb-dri2-0 libxcb-randr0 libxcb-render0 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0 libxcb-xv0 libxcb1
libxext6 libxfont1 libxi6 libxt6 linux-headers-2.6-aptosid-amd64 linux-image-2.6-aptosid-amd64 lm-sensors locales m17n-contrib m17n-db man-db
mencoder mesa-utils **removed** myspell-en-us mysql-common mysql-server-core-5.1 openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib
openprinting-ppds openssh-client openssh-server patch pidgin pidgin-data pm-utils rsyslog samba-common skanlite smbclient sudo sun-java6-bin
sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin syslinux syslinux-common ttf-dejavu ttf-dejavu-core ttf-dejavu-extra ttf-freefont ttf-liberation ttf-lyx
ttf-opensymbol udev uno-libs3 ure usbutils vlc vlc-data vlc-nox vlc-plugin-pulse whois x11-apps x11-common x11-session-utils x11-utils xsane
xsane-common xserver-common xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark
xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-i128
xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-nv
xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xutils yakuake
224 upgraded, 8 newly installed, 14 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/296 MB of archives.
After this operation, 172 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.

Code:

root@t510[/home/finotti]# apt-cache policy nvidia-glx

nvidia-glx:

  Installed: 195.36.31-6

  Candidate: 195.36.31-6

  Version table:

     260.19.21-1 0

         50 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental/non-free amd64 Packages

 *** 195.36.31-6 0

        500 http://lug.mtu.edu/debian/ sid/non-free amd64 Packages

        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

     195.36.24-0 0

        500 http://frickelplatz.de/debian/ sid/non-free amd64 Packages

Last edited by finotti on 11.02.2011, 21:35; edited 1 time in total

cid-baba

Post subject: RE: nvidia-glx to be removed (amd64)

Posted: 10.02.2011, 17:08

Joined: 2010-09-11
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I installed the nvidia-stuff from experimantal some time ago (needed it for my new GTX460) and it works without problems here. (amd64)

quatro_por_quatro

Post subject: RE: nvidia-glx to be removed (amd64)

Posted: 10.02.2011, 17:11

Joined: 2010-10-03
Posts: 4

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now the nouveau driver in kernel works well, but is not enabled in shl kernels,

there are alternatives, compiling new kernel or nvidia packages, read:

http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... =5012#5012

I see that your apt-get command does not automatically upgrade openoffice to libreoffice, you should also take care of that.

muchan

Post subject: RE: nvidia-glx to be removed (amd64)

Posted: 10.02.2011, 18:13

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Joined: 2010-09-11
Posts: 469

nvidia-glx is still in experimental.
nvidia-glx:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 195.36.31-6
Version table:
260.19.21-1 0
1 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ experimental/non-free i386 Packages
195.36.31-6 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid/non-free i386 Packages

after getting new xorg, activating experimental with non-free then
# apt-get update
# apt-get install nvidia-glx/experimental
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... =4959#4959

quatro_por_quatro wrote:

now the nouveau driver in kernel works well, but is not enabled in shl kernels,

When you wrote this, it was already enabled. 8)

quatro_por_quatro

Post subject: RE: nvidia-glx to be removed (amd64)

Posted: 10.02.2011, 20:35

Joined: 2010-10-03
Posts: 4

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good grief!
nearly twelve hours ago

hopimet

Post subject: Re: RE: nvidia-glx to be removed (amd64)

Posted: 10.02.2011, 21:17

Joined: 2010-10-13
Posts: 62
Location: France
Status: Offline

muchan wrote:

after getting new xorg, activating experimental with non-free then
# apt-get update
# apt-get install nvidia-glx/experimental
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... =4959#4959

Failed for me.

Code:

root@yoda:/etc/apt/sources.list.d# apt-get install nvidia-glx/experimental 

Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait

Construction de l'arbre des dépendances       

Lecture des informations d'état... Fait

Version choisie « 260.19.21-1 » (Debian:experimental [i386]) pour « nvidia-glx »

Certains paquets ne peuvent être installés. Ceci peut signifier

que vous avez demandé l'impossible, ou bien, si vous utilisez

la distribution unstable, que certains paquets n'ont pas encore

été créés ou ne sont pas sortis d'Incoming.

L'information suivante devrait vous aider à résoudre la situation : 

Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites :

 nvidia-glx : Dépend: libgl1-nvidia-glx (= 260.19.21-1)

              Dépend: nvidia-kernel-260.19.21

E: Paquets défectueux

Then I installed libgl1-nvidia-glx: OK but when I wanted to install nvidia-kernel-260.19.21: this package does not exist.

towo

Post subject: RE: Re: RE: nvidia-glx to be removed (amd64)

Posted: 10.02.2011, 21:22

Joined: 2010-09-13
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Location: Pößneck / Thüringen
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apt-get -t experimental install nvidia-kernel-source
rmmod nvidia
m-a a-i nvidia-kernel-source
apt-get -t experimental install nvidia-glx

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System:    Host: Defiant Kernel: 4.9.1-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Cinnamon 3.2.7

           Distro: siduction 13.2.0 December - xfce - (201312310323)

hopimet

Post subject: RE: Re: RE: nvidia-glx to be removed (amd64)

Posted: 10.02.2011, 21:27

Joined: 2010-10-13
Posts: 62
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Thx towo, I'm going to try that and I'll give you a feedback.

muchan

Post subject: RE: Re: RE: nvidia-glx to be removed (amd64)

Posted: 10.02.2011, 21:34

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Joined: 2010-09-11
Posts: 469

hopimet, you need to activate the non-free of both sid and experimental.
When my sid didn't have non-free, and only experimental, I got exactly the same error as yours.
If you think you have already, please post the contents of
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list

(btw. je suis aussi parmi les francophone... mais en ce moment aptosid.fr ne fonctionne pas)

hopimet

Post subject: RE: Re: RE: nvidia-glx to be removed (amd64)

Posted: 10.02.2011, 21:42

Joined: 2010-10-13
Posts: 62
Location: France
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It's OK !!!!!! Many thx towo !!!!

Just a small problem: the movements of my touchpad seem now, very, very slow...

I think it can be modified somewhere ?

Salut munchan, tu es français ? belge ? suisse ? quebecois ? autre choix ?

finotti

Post subject: RE: Re: RE: nvidia-glx to be removed (amd64)

Posted: 11.02.2011, 21:35

Joined: 2010-09-12
Posts: 469

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Although I haven't tested it for functionality, a new nvidia-glx came now and so it will be upgraded instead of removed, which is what one expects. I'll mark this as solved.

mylo

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Posted: 12.02.2011, 09:43

Joined: 2010-09-11
Posts: 116
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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Hi finotti,

I cannot confirm this by this morning (64bit):

Code:

Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:

  nvidia-glx openoffice.org-base-core openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-thesaurus-de openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us

  virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 xserver-xorg-video-nv

ENTFERNT = REMOVED

EDIT:
with the frickel repo now apt proposes to update it. Thanks!

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mylo

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slam

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Posted: 12.02.2011, 10:16

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Insisting to use drivers who have been removed/replaced upstream is not a good solution, and calling for problems with a rolling release like Aptosid. xserver-xorg-video-nv is gone. For booting from live CD vesa is really good enough. For HDD installations nouveau will be nice in the future, but as it is today it will break with every kernel upgrade until userspace ABI is not upgraded. And there is the proprietary nvidia driver, reliable, easy to upgrade and well working.
Greetings,
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mylo

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Posted: 12.02.2011, 10:58

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just for me to be sure:

Code:

nvidia-glx:

  Installiert: 195.36.31-6

  Kandidat:    260.19.36-0~frickel.1

The 195 is, according to my understanding, the proprietary one. Am I right?
Can I replace the 195 now by the 260?
Or shall I go experimental?

Sorry to ask, but may be I am the only one who cannot follow this detailed stuff...

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mylo

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hopimet

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Posted: 12.02.2011, 11:03

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Posts: 62
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Quote:

Can I replace the 195 now by the 260?

Yes, follow the procedure given by towo a few posts above. It was succesful for me.

Then, it's possible that you will have a problem with your touchpad if you're using a laptop. You will find a solution on the other topic:
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... &t=789
(see muchan's post)

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