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1 Post subject: [SOLVED] Python :: Hold It  PostPosted: 16.04.2011, 03:18
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put python on hold with
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echo python hold|dpkg --set-selections


should halt the mass removals

UPDATE: python [2.6.6-14 64-bit] now installs here without mass removals, tho there are a FEW removed still,

so watch it


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Post subject: RE: Python :: Hold It  PostPosted: 16.04.2011, 05:22



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looks like the problem is solved without setting python on hold.
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Post subject: RE: Python :: Hold It  PostPosted: 16.04.2011, 07:35



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I just did a D-U and it was successful... Python OK as far as I can tell... There was on interesting note in that aptosid held back on a Python Cairo? package. many others installed.

A little history about 3 days ago hplip and other hp printing packages were removed and the printer hp2605dn lost its color capabilities. I tried to compile a custom hp printer driver (I have in the past) but it depended on some legacy (lenny... bsd and cupsys packages so I fiddled for a while with temporary repositories and looked for the packages... gave up when it looked like I was digging a hole were I did not want one) But I remembered it was trying to set up hplip-3.11.3a but stopped at the last element (sh build, from a network online automatic build from HP looking for something very obscure, a package not in a known repository... I thought it wise to wait a day for more info. so I aborted that process. (I do have a nice lookin folder now with a lot of HP python scripts regarding hplip 3.11.3a in the /usr/share right next to hplip 3.11.3 which came in tonight

I removed the legacy repository's and went back to aptosid, experimental, and non free contributor.

during today's D-U everything came into place and the hplip3.11.3 was in place and the python additions as well.

All is OK now. sorry if this is not technical enough. I am still not really a code guru by any stretch of imagination. Just a determined user who believes in aptosid the great.
 
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Post subject: RE: Python :: Hold It  PostPosted: 16.04.2011, 09:14
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vinur,

your post is technical enough, but you should have posted on holip thread, not python thread. 8(
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... amp;t=1127

and... when packages are removed during d-u and you lost features you need,
the solution in general is not to compile your custom software, but downgrading the offending packages,
and reinstall the removed packages with the feature...
 
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Post subject: Re: Python :: Hold It  PostPosted: 16.04.2011, 10:15



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      etorix wrote:
put python on hold with
      Code:

echo python hold|dpkg --set-selections


should halt the mass removals


I've been keeping an eye on this potential problem on and off during the day.

I'm pleased to say that I've just recently completed a d-u, via the Debian sid mirrors provided by my ISP here in OZ, with no python related (or any other) set backs.

It seems it's just a matter of being patient, and waiting for uploads / mirror syncs to take place.

Cheers.
 
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Post subject: RE: Python :: Hold It  PostPosted: 16.04.2011, 10:18



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      muchan wrote:
vinur,

your post is technical enough, but you should have posted on holip thread, not python thread. 8(
http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... amp;t=1127

and... when packages are removed during d-u and you lost features you need,
the solution in general is not to compile your custom software, but downgrading the offending packages,
and reinstall the removed packages with the feature...
In looking at the issue... you are right, muchan. Should I move it or do nothing with the post, it looks like the problem was solved.
Like so many people I sometimes think I know how to go around a problem when in the long term, patience will work better.
Thank you.
 
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Post subject: RE: Python :: Hold It  PostPosted: 16.04.2011, 10:29



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For me d-u wants to make next:

$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
..reading...blah-blah-blah........
Пакеты, которые будут УДАЛЕНЫ: //WE'LL REMOVE THESE
python-gnome2 soundconverter
Пакеты, которые будут оставлены в неизменном виде: //WE WON'T TOUCH THESE
python-cairo
Пакеты, которые будут обновлены: //AND UPDATE THESE
python-pyorbit

P.S. 64bit
 
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Post subject: RE: Python :: Hold It  PostPosted: 16.04.2011, 11:03



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There are issues with python-cairo and python-pyorbit for me (64-bit).

      Code:
sudo apt-get install python-cairo python-pyorbit
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  catfish devede driconf gdebi gedit gedit-plugins gimp gnome-applets
  gnome-control-center gnome-menus gnome-panel gnome-session gnome-shell
  ntfs-config pychess python-glade2 python-gmenu python-gnome2
  python-gnomedesktop python-gnomekeyring python-gtk2 python-gtksourceview2
  python-notify python-rsvg python-vte python-webkit rhythmbox
  rhythmbox-plugins soundconverter system-config-printer totem-plugins
The following packages will be upgraded:
  python-cairo python-pyorbit
2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 31 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 
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Post subject: RE: Python :: Hold It  PostPosted: 16.04.2011, 11:49



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For me (64-bit), it's only:
The following packages will be REMOVED:
portmap python-gnome2 system-config-lvm

I'm not running gnome for my desktop, so I'm more concerned that it's going to remove system-config-lvm...

Seems oddly to be user dependent like that udev /run thing (I still haven't upgraded so I'm not sure that affects me either)...
 
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here on my 32bit machine, i still have to hold pythin-cairo and python-pyorbit in order lot of packages not to be removed.
plus, i am still affected by this one:

http://www.aptosid.com/index.php?name=P ... amp;t=1094

cheers,
doc
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 16.04.2011, 13:09



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I just ran successful d-u on two machines, first a Toshiba NB205 netbook 32-bit system, and second my desktop i7-950 64-bit system. They both have default repos plus frickelplatz and the debian kde experimental snapshots repo.

python-cairo is held back by apt. There were no packages to be removed. Upgraded packages included grub-common, hplip, chromium-browser and others. No ill effects on either system.

      Code:
don@aptosidbox:~$ infobash -v3
Host/Kernel/OS  "aptosidbox" running Linux 2.6.38-3.slh.2-aptosid-amd64 x86_64 [ aptosid 2010-03 Ἀπάτη - kde-lite - (201012262151) ]
CPU Info        8x Intel Core i7 950 @ 8192 KB cache flags( sse3 ht nx lm vmx ) clocked at [ 2800.000 MHz ]
Videocard       nVidia GF100 [GeForce GTX 480]  X.Org 1.9.5  [ 1920x1200@50.0hz ]
Network cards   Marvell 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit
Processes 206 | Uptime 1day | Memory 1031.9/5978.8MB | HDD OCZ-REVODRIVE,OCZ-REVODRIVE,WDC WD1002FAEX-0,WDC WD1002FAEX-0,KINGSTON SS100S2 Size 2136GB (2%used) | GLX Renderer GeForce GTX 480/PCI/SSE2 | GLX Version 4.1.0 NVIDIA 270.30 | Client Shell | Infobash v3.35
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 16.04.2011, 13:41



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i did a d-u by holding 4 packages. 32bit machine.
this is what it is looking like right now:



      Code:

root@murija5:/home/nowhiskey/Desktop# apt-get dist-upgrade
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut       
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig
Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet... Fertig
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  libgmp10-dev libmpc-dev libmpfr-dev librasqal3-dev librdf0-dev libslv2-dev python-gnome2 soundconverter
Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden:
  python-cairo
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade):
  libgmp10 libgmpxx4ldbl python-pyorbit
3 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 8 zu entfernen und 1 nicht aktualisiert.


or if i try only this:

      Code:
root@murija5:/home/nowhiskey/Desktop# apt-get install python-cairo
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut       
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  gedit gimp openshot python-glade2 python-gnome2 python-gtk2 python-gtk2-dev python-gtksourceview2 python-notify python-pygoocanvas soundconverter
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade):
  python-cairo
1 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 11 zu entfernen und 3 nicht aktualisiert.


cheers,
doc
 
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Did a dist-upgrade yesterday and it worked fine...Python still works and no problems w/ udev...
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.04.2011, 13:36



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Python-cairo still will remove packages for me...so held that back
 
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      kenyee wrote:
Did a dist-upgrade yesterday and it worked fine...Python still works and no problems w/ udev...


# apt-get dist-upgrade

Пакеты, которые будут УДАЛЕНЫ: (REMOVED)
bleachbit bleachbit-bonus gedit gnome-about gnome-control-center
gnome-main-menu gnome-menus gnome-panel gnome-session python-gconf
python-gmenu python-gnome2 python-gtk2 python-gtksourceview2

Пакеты, которые будут обновлены: (UPGRADED)
python-cairo python-gobject python-pyorbit
 
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