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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.06.2011, 00:39
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      dibl wrote:
Fortunately, I found that the relationship was that gimp depends on libhal1. So, I did the removals, then reinstalled gimp and it brought back libhal1.

You aren't even using gimp from Debian let alone from sid.

It's never any surprise when packages from outside sid break when changes happen in sid ... unless the packages come from aptosid Very Happy
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.06.2011, 03:40



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      bfree wrote:


You aren't even using gimp from Debian let alone from sid.



OK -- YES, this is true:

      Code:
root@aptosidbox:/home/don# apt-cache policy gimp
gimp:
  Installed: 2.7.3~git20110415
  Candidate: 2.7.3~git20110415
  Version table:
 *** 2.7.3~git20110415 0
        500 http://frickelplatz.de/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


However, I think the future is coming to Debian gimp too, sooner or later.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.06.2011, 05:55
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      dibl wrote:
      bfree wrote:


You aren't even using gimp from Debian let alone from sid.



OK -- YES, this is true:

However, I think the future is coming to Debian gimp too, sooner or later.

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now i'm sureyour system gone crap ... and some packages installed are nuts.


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root@comus-64:/home/x-un-i/Work/Builder/iso# apt-cache show libhal1
Package: libhal1
Source: hal
Version: 0.5.14-6
Installed-Size: 208
Maintainer: Utopia Maintenance Team <pkg-utopia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Architecture: amd64
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.5), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.0.2)
Description: Hardware Abstraction Layer - shared library
 HAL provides an abstract view on hardware.
 .
 This abstraction layer is simply an interface that makes it possible to
 add support for new devices and new ways of connecting devices to the
 computer, without modifying every application that uses the device.
 It maintains a list of devices that currently exist, and can provide
 information about those upon request.
 .
 This package contains shared libraries to be used by applications.




gimp has no relationship at all with hal.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.06.2011, 07:11
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Our warnings against installing from or dist-upgrading against 3rd-party repositories are legion, and here we have another example of what happens when our advice is not trusted. The packaging quality from outside Debian can vary a lot, and only inside Debian a serious workflow of quality control is implemented. Don't buy cheap luxury watch imitations from street dealers, and don't use 3rd-arty repositories.
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.06.2011, 20:21



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libhal1 is not a problematic package.
On xfce-systems it is installed default and can't be removed.
Btw, libhal != hald!
The hal deamon is not running.

And to the wannabe-dev slam, think before write.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.06.2011, 20:40
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Please, lets all get along !

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.06.2011, 20:45



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towo, honestly - in this case I really suggest you to follow your own advice.

An epoche for gimp-plugin-registry - WTF...?
...and then even 2 as epoche?

libhal1 as dependency for gimp and gimp-plugin-registry - really...?
...no it's not hal the dæmon, but it's obsolete as well (apparently Debian's gimp packages don't need it anymore, newer upstream should need it even less than the stable version in Debian).

[just to mention the issues uncovered in this very thread, I'm scared to look any deeper]

At least the former totally breaks the upgrade path for gimp-plugin-registry with Debian for 'all eternity'. Stuff like these are prime examples why 3rd party repositories are so frowned upon.

And to the wannabe-packager towo, think before overriding packages in Debian.
You see, this works both ways. Given that you seem to prefer turning this into a contest of personal insults, I'll lock this thread here and now.
 
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