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1 Post subject: Preffered Installation of non sid/aptosid packages  PostPosted: 24.03.2011, 04:04



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Hello. I just returned to the debian environment (man things have changed for the better) from a long sabbatical. I really enjoy this distros OTB implementation of sid and plan to stick around and lurk these forums and provide help when need be.

However I do have a question. When coming across a package that is not in the debian Sid or aptosid repository or is out of date (wine being the current example), what is the preffered way to install compiling or third party repo? Like I said it's been awhile since I have been in a debian environment.
 
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Post subject: RE: Preffered Installation of non sid/aptosid packages  PostPosted: 24.03.2011, 06:18



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I would install it under /usr/local
 
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Post subject: RE: Preffered Installation of non sid/aptosid packages  PostPosted: 24.03.2011, 07:08
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It highly depends.

wine - do you really need a newer version or is it just "there is a new version - i need it!". There is a wine-unstable package, too, which isn't the state of the art in this branch, too, but maybe okay.
(as far as i know the maintainers are busy-waiting for mingw as well as a working multi-arch implementation)

I normally stick to the rule: apt-get it or for-get it!

Small one-trick tools which consist only in a script/program might be an exception: I tend to compile them myself and move them to ~/bin.

"make install" with DESTDIR and co has always the problem, that it is not always implemented correctly. Sometimes they still write stuff to /etc for example. Undoing this can be a problem on its own, too.

A package from a third party CAN be better - if it is of high quality. Some third-parties are better than others. Especially the ones where it sounds obviously to trust them: Don't. Many big companies fail big time to write good packages. The result is breakage even years after the package was installed (e.g. virtualbox for lenny), no support from the creator is most of the time coupled with it. The team here refuses to give support in most cases as we can't know every fu**ing package in the universe by any given repository. Sticking to archives from community members here can be a more save bet…

I have a honorable mention, too: There are even repositories everyone thinks would be needed, but very few actually need it for real: I am talking about the infamous -multimedia thing which causes breakage from time to time and the features it provides aren't needed for most. Most people install from there as they think they need it to play mp3 for example. Thats wrong. Debian can do this out-of-the-box.
(you "need" it only if you want to encode to mp3 - but the free ogg is supported by most players nowadays…)

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