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15 Post subject: Nautilus takes over USB hotswapping after installing XFCE  PostPosted: 13.04.2011, 13:57



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Not really a bug, but an undesirable "feature".

After installing XFCE, when an external hard drive is plugged in, Nautilus pops up and mounts it automatically.

This is not how I expect the system to work. I don't use Nautilus and this prevents me from mounting/unmounting the hard drive in Dolphin.
Workaround is to unmount the drive with Nautilus but I'd rather not have it get involved in the first place.


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Post subject: RE: Nautilus takes over USB hotswapping after installing XFC  PostPosted: 13.04.2011, 14:29



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Not a bug in 2011-01

1. xfce does not install nautilus
2. This forum is for bugs with the release, nor your install!
 
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Post subject: RE: Nautilus takes over USB hotswapping after installing XFC  PostPosted: 13.04.2011, 14:54



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How did nautilus get onto your system in the first place, that's the question.
 
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Post subject: RE: Nautilus takes over USB hotswapping after installing XFC  PostPosted: 13.04.2011, 15:07



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Well I have no idea other than it popped up after installing XFCE. Maybe I installed another software that pulled it in at that time, but I sure didn't choose to install it on it's own.

Still doesn't help me fixing the issue. I haven't even dared removing it from the system as I'm not sure that would restore the previous functionality.

EDIT : Seeing an apt-get remove nautilus didn't show any dependencies I gave it a try. Funny thing is after that plugging in a drive still popped up a Nautilus. Rebooting fixed this. Now I'm just wondering what leftovers they may still be, such as the program that launched Nautilus when plugging a hard drive.


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Post subject: RE: Nautilus takes over USB hotswapping after installing XFC  PostPosted: 13.04.2011, 15:08



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Remove nautilus, where is the problem?
aptosid does not need nautilus at all.
 
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Post subject: RE: Nautilus takes over USB hotswapping after installing XFC  PostPosted: 13.04.2011, 15:23



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Ok logged out and noticed I did also install Fluxbox and Xfwm, maybe it's one of those that pulled in nautilus.
 
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Post subject: RE: Nautilus takes over USB hotswapping after installing XFC  PostPosted: 13.04.2011, 15:23



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good idea to pay close attention to what apt-get tells you what it will install when you install some program as such programs may install additional packages
 
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Post subject: RE: Nautilus takes over USB hotswapping after installing XFC  PostPosted: 13.04.2011, 15:29



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Fluxbux even does not depend on nautilus.
Nautilus is the filemanager from gnome.
Xfwm is the windowmanager from xfce.
 
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Post subject: RE: Nautilus takes over USB hotswapping after installing XFC  PostPosted: 13.04.2011, 21:40
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piper@x1:~$ apt-cache depends nautilus

      Code:
nautilus
  Depends: libatk1.0-0
  Depends: libc6
  Depends: libcairo2
  Depends: libdbus-glib-1-2
  Depends: libexempi3
  Depends: libexif12
  Depends: libgail18
  Depends: libgconf2-4
  Depends: libglib2.0-0
  Depends: libgnome-desktop-2-17
  Depends: libgtk2.0-0
  Depends: libice6
  Depends: libnautilus-extension1
  Depends: libpango1.0-0
  Depends: libselinux1
  Depends: libsm6
  Depends: libunique-1.0-0
  Depends: libx11-6
  Depends: libxml2
  Depends: libxrender1
  Depends: nautilus-data
  Depends: nautilus-data
  Depends: shared-mime-info
  Depends: desktop-file-utils
  Depends: gvfs
  Depends: libglib2.0-data
  Suggests: eog
 |Suggests: evince
  Suggests: <pdf>
    acroread
    epdfview
    evince
    evince-gtk
    gv
    okular
    viewpdf.app
    xpdf
    zathura
 |Suggests: totem
  Suggests: <mp3>
    mpg123
    mpg123-oss-i486
    mpg321
    opencubicplayer
    vlc
    vlc-nox
  Suggests: xdg-user-dirs
  Suggests: tracker
  Recommends: desktop-base
  Recommends: eject
  Recommends: brasero
  Recommends: librsvg2-common
  Recommends: synaptic
  Recommends: app-install-data
  Recommends: gvfs-backends
  Recommends: consolekit
  Conflicts: <libnautilus2>
  Conflicts: <libnautilus2>
  Breaks: gnome-session
  Breaks: <gnome>
  Breaks: rhythmbox
  Replaces: <libnautilus2>


piper@x1:~$ apt-cache showpkg nautilus

      Code:
Package: nautilus
Versions:
2.30.1-3 (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_binary-i386_Packages)
 Description Language:
                 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_binary-i386_Packages
                  MD5: 007268d365c98355ef914766c16ee43f


Reverse Depends:
  rabbitvcs-nautilus,nautilus
  nautilus-dbg,nautilus 2.30.1-3
  nautilus-data,nautilus 2.14.1-3
  nautilus-data,nautilus
  libnautilus-extension1,nautilus 2.22
  nautilus-share,nautilus
  nautilus-share,nautilus 2.10
  nautilus-scripts-manager,nautilus
  nautilus-pastebin,nautilus
  nautilus-image-converter,nautilus 2.21.0
  gnome-core,nautilus 2.30
  libgnome2-doc,nautilus 1.0.6-4
  libgnome2-common,nautilus 1.0.6-4
  libbonobo2-0,nautilus 2.2.4-5
  gnome-session,nautilus 2.26
  gnome-panel,nautilus
  gnome-icon-theme,nautilus 2.2
  gnome-color-chooser,nautilus 2.18.2
  nautilus-gksu,nautilus
  fvwm-crystal,nautilus
  furiusisomount,nautilus
  evince,nautilus
  evince-gtk,nautilus
  eiciel,nautilus
  eiciel,nautilus
  cairo-dock-shortcuts-plugin,nautilus
  nautilus-bzr,nautilus
  nautilus-arista,nautilus
  acetoneiso,nautilus
Dependencies:
2.30.1-3 - libatk1.0-0 (2 1.29.3) libc6 (2 2.7) libcairo2 (2 1.2.4) libdbus-glib-1-2 (2 0.78) libexempi3 (2 2.1.0) libexif12 (0 (null)) libgail18 (2 1.18.0) libgconf2-4 (2 2.27.0) libglib2.0-0 (2 2.24.0) libgnome-desktop-2-17 (0 (null)) libgtk2.0-0 (2 2.20.0) libice6 (2 1:1.0.0) libnautilus-extension1 (2 2.30) libpango1.0-0 (2 1.20.0) libselinux1 (2 1.32) libsm6 (0 (null)) libunique-1.0-0 (2 1.0.0) libx11-6 (0 (null)) libxml2 (2 2.7.4) libxrender1 (0 (null)) nautilus-data (2 2.30) nautilus-data (3 2.31) shared-mime-info (2 0.50) desktop-file-utils (2 0.7) gvfs (2 1.3.2) libglib2.0-data (0 (null)) eog (0 (null)) evince (16 (null)) pdf-viewer (0 (null)) totem (16 (null)) mp3-decoder (0 (null)) xdg-user-dirs (0 (null)) tracker (0 (null)) desktop-base (2 0.2) eject (0 (null)) brasero (2 2.26) librsvg2-common (0 (null)) synaptic (0 (null)) app-install-data (0 (null)) gvfs-backends (0 (null)) consolekit (0 (null)) libnautilus2-2 (0 (null)) libnautilus2-dev (0 (null)) gnome-session (3 2.28) gnome-volume-manager (3 2.24) rhythmbox (3 0.12) libnautilus2-2 (0 (null))
Provides:
2.30.1-3 - nautilus-extensions-2.0
Reverse Provides:


probably (höhchstwahrscheinlich) has gnome installed Wink
 
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Post subject: RE: Nautilus takes over USB hotswapping after installing XFC  PostPosted: 14.04.2011, 16:43



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Not as wahrscheinlich as you may think. Since I've been using linux as my main system, around 1999, before that I was just checking it out once in a while, I never liked gnome. I did try a lot of distros at the time but always came back to debian based kde desktops. My main system have been more or less chronologically, knoppix, kanotix, sidux, sabayon, aptosid

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root:/home/shakaz/Downloads/Debian/gfusion# apt-get remove cairo-dock-shortcuts-plugin nautilus-share nautilus-scripts-manager nautilus-pastebin nautilus-image-converter gnome-core libgnome2-doc libgnome2-common libbonobo2-0 gnome-session gnome-panel gnome-icon-theme gnome-color-chooser nautilus-gksu furiusisomount evince evince-gtk eiciel nautilus-arista acetoneiso fvwm-crystal
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package nautilus-arista is not installed, so not removed
Package cairo-dock-shortcuts-plugin is not installed, so not removed
Package eiciel is not installed, so not removed
Package evince-gtk is not installed, so not removed
Package evince is not installed, so not removed
Package furiusisomount is not installed, so not removed
Package fvwm-crystal is not installed, so not removed
Package nautilus-gksu is not installed, so not removed
Package gnome-color-chooser is not installed, so not removed
Package gnome-icon-theme is not installed, so not removed
Package gnome-panel is not installed, so not removed
Package gnome-session is not installed, so not removed
Package libgnome2-doc is not installed, so not removed
Package gnome-core is not installed, so not removed
Package nautilus-image-converter is not installed, so not removed
Package nautilus-pastebin is not installed, so not removed
Package nautilus-scripts-manager is not installed, so not removed
Package nautilus-share is not installed, so not removed
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  [b]acetoneiso gnome-power-manager gnote libbonobo2-0 libbonoboui2-0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common libgnomeui-0 libpanel-applet2-0 libpanelappletmm-2.6-1c2 libswt-gnome-gtk-3.5-jni vuze[/b]
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 12 to remove and 294 not upgraded.
After this operation, 30.3 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]

So I guess that would be AcetoneISO or Vuze pulling it in. Still strange though as when I removed Nautilus there was no dependency to remove with it. What gnome-power-manager is doing there I really wonder.
 
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Post subject: RE: Nautilus takes over USB hotswapping after installing XFC  PostPosted: 14.04.2011, 20:09



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What are you doing?
If you don't want nautilus, do

apt-get purge nautilus

Zhen you will see, what will also be removed.
 
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Post subject: RE: Nautilus takes over USB hotswapping after installing XFC  PostPosted: 14.04.2011, 20:39



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AcetoneISO does not pull in nautilus

      Code:
# apt-get -s install acetoneiso
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  fuseiso pinentry-qt4
Suggested packages:
  pinentry-doc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  acetoneiso fuseiso pinentry-qt4
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
Inst fuseiso (20070708-2 Debian:unstable [i386])
Inst pinentry-qt4 (0.8.1-1 Debian:unstable [i386])
Inst acetoneiso (2.3-1 Debian:unstable [i386])
Conf fuseiso (20070708-2 Debian:unstable [i386])
Conf pinentry-qt4 (0.8.1-1 Debian:unstable [i386])
Conf acetoneiso (2.3-1 Debian:unstable [i386])
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 15.04.2011, 10:21



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Hmmm why does apt-cache showpkg nautilus show it as a reverse dependency of Nautilus?
I do find it weird though that AcetoneISO is listed as such.

      Code:
# apt-cache showpkg acetoneiso
Package: acetoneiso
Versions:
2.3-1 (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nl.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_binary-amd64_Packages) (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nl.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-amd64_Packages) (/var/lib/dpkg/status)
 Description Language:
                 File: /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nl.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_binary-amd64_Packages
                  MD5: e08d195f1b4e97a80c19fd915b777b7f


Reverse Depends:
Dependencies:
2.3-1 - libc6 (2 2.2.5) libgcc1 (2 1:4.1.1) libphonon4 (2 4:4.2.0) libqt4-dbus (2 4:4.5.3) libqt4-webkit (2 4:4.5.3) libqtcore4 (2 4:4.6.1) libqtgui4 (2 4:4.5.3) libstdc++6 (2 4.1.1) phonon (0 (null)) fuseiso (0 (null)) fuse-utils (0 (null)) genisoimage (0 (null)) cdrdao (0 (null)) p7zip-full (0 (null)) gnupg-agent (0 (null)) gnupg2 (0 (null)) pinentry-qt4 (0 (null)) mencoder (0 (null)) nautilus (16 (null)) konqueror (16 (null)) thunar (16 (null)) dolphin (0 (null))
Provides:
2.3-1 -
Reverse Provides:

Ok, I guess this means it needs one of the file managers listed with a preference for dolphin?
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 15.04.2011, 11:24
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$ apt-cache show acetoneiso
Package: acetoneiso
Priority: optional
Section: otherosfs
Installed-Size: 1760
Maintainer: Nick Andrik <nick>
Architecture: amd64
Version: 2.3-1
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.5), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libphonon4 (>= 4:4.2.0), libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-webkit (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.6.1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), phonon, fuseiso, fuse-utils, genisoimage, cdrdao, p7zip-full, gnupg-agent, gnupg2, pinentry-qt4
Suggests: mencoder, nautilus | konqueror | thunar | dolphin
...

so, rdepends consider "Suggests" as dependency. (maybe there is option to exclude)
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 15.04.2011, 11:57



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I don't get it!
You don't want nautilus, what's your problem with:

apt-get purge nautilus

???
 
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