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finotti

Post subject: [solved] nvidia-common replaced by nvidia-support?

Posted: 26.05.2011, 16:01

Joined: 2010-09-12
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Hi,

Updating my 64-bit system, running proprietary nvidia driver, I'm
getting:

Code:

root@t510[/home/finotti]# apt-get dist-upgrade 

Reading package lists... Done

Building dependency tree       

Reading state information... Done

Calculating upgrade... Done

The following packages will be REMOVED:

  ntfsprogs nvidia-common

The following NEW packages will be installed:

  dkms libio-socket-ssl-perl liblwp-protocol-https-perl libmagickcore4 libmagickwand4 libnet-ssleay-perl linux-headers-2.6.39-0.slh.3-aptosid-amd64

  linux-image-2.6.39-0.slh.3-aptosid-amd64 nvidia-installer-cleanup nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-support

The following packages will be upgraded:

  binutils cpp-4.6 cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc feh fuse-utils g++-4.6 gcc-4.6 gcc-4.6-base gfortran-4.6 glib-networking

  imagemagick imagemagick-doc kbd lib32gcc1 lib32stdc++6 libaudit0 libcairomm-1.0-1 libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsdriver1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1

  libcupsppdc1 libfuse2 libgcc1 libgfortran3 libgl1-nvidia-alternatives libgl1-nvidia-glx libglx-nvidia-alternatives libgnome-keyring0 libgomp1

  libmjpegtools-2.0-0 libnspr4-0d libnss3-1d libntfs-3g804 libpcap0.8 libquadmath0 libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules libsdl1.2debian libsmbclient

  libsoup-gnome2.4-1 libsoup2.4-1 libsrtp0 libstdc++6 libstdc++6-4.6-dev libwbclient0 libwww-perl linux-headers-2.6-aptosid-amd64

  linux-image-2.6-aptosid-amd64 linux-libc-dev mjpegtools ntfs-3g nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-vdpau-driver perlmagick python-dbus

  resolvconf samba-common smbclient squashfs-tools syslinux syslinux-common xawtv-plugins xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon

71 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

But,

Code:

root@t510[/home/finotti]# apt-cache show nvidia-common 

Package: nvidia-common

Version: 20110426+1

Installed-Size: 48

Maintainer: Debian NVIDIA Maintainers <pkg-nvidia-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>

Architecture: amd64

Depends: debconf, debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0

Description: NVIDIA binary graphics driver support files

 This package contains support files needed for all Debian packages of

 NVIDIA graphics drivers and related software.  It takes care that no old

 installation of the drivers that was done with the nvidia-installer

 remains on the system as this will conflict with the packages drivers.

 Furthermore using the nvidia-installer to install a new version of the

 drivers is prevented as long as this package is installed.

Section: contrib/misc

Priority: optional

Filename: pool/contrib/n/nvidia-common/nvidia-common_20110426+1_amd64.deb

Size: 13322

MD5sum: e4399e03987627238e377ff008a34f84

SHA1: 56425912441441648290ec460e68c6bee74b173e

SHA256: c22653c83e23ff475e28015bf8c26699c573ee057c0853fe8f12148c996936f0

Package: nvidia-common

Priority: optional

Section: contrib/misc

Installed-Size: 36

Maintainer: Debian NVIDIA Maintainers <pkg-nvidia-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>

Architecture: amd64

Version: 20110126+0~anbe0

Depends: debconf, debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0

Filename: dists/sid/contrib/binary-amd64/misc/nvidia-common_20110126+0~anbe0_amd64.deb

Size: 8272

MD5sum: c5b523934df2e1509509a7e632cced03

SHA1: 449f25d3b5d553e9982314de014a1466d41f5d63

SHA256: d3ef4072d0ba92281bcdab220bd91feba26a61046192b2a91c4eba4e58ad0f81

Description: NVIDIA binary graphics driver support files

 This package contains support files needed for all Debian packages of

 NVIDIA graphics drivers and related software.  It takes care that no old

 installation of the drivers that was done with the nvidia-installer

 remains on the system as this will conflict with the packages drivers.

 Furthermore using the nvidia-installer to install a new version of the

 drivers is prevented as long as this package is installed.

while

Code:

root@t510[/home/finotti]# apt-cache show nvidia-support 

Package: nvidia-support

Version: 20110515+1

Installed-Size: 12

Maintainer: Debian NVIDIA Maintainers <pkg-nvidia-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>

Architecture: amd64

Description: NVIDIA binary graphics driver support files

 This package contains support files needed for all current and legacy

 versions of the non-free NVIDIA graphics drivers.

Section: contrib/misc

Priority: optional

Filename: pool/contrib/n/nvidia-support/nvidia-support_20110515+1_amd64.deb

Size: 6212

MD5sum: 400ed2b42d2264bd194ba65ef375477f

SHA1: f3027f96eafbaef19ea8688147e1bffdb491a2ce

SHA256:

ccc9834bceb0a57e0f7ddbc270916391c43890477bdcb230d5246be3efa04156

So, does "nvidia-support" replace "nvidia-common". (Although it seems
that the conflict is with "nvidia-installer-cleanup"...)

Also, something is trying to pull "dkms" and "nvidia-kernel-dkms"...
Is this OK, as aptosid used dmakms?

Thanks,

Luis

Last edited by finotti on 27.05.2011, 11:46; edited 1 time in total

towo

Post subject:

Posted: 26.05.2011, 20:10

Joined: 2010-09-13
Posts: 516
Location: Pößneck / Thüringen
Status: Offline

Quote:

Also, something is trying to pull "dkms" and "nvidia-kernel-dkms"...

Before d-u, do

apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source && m-a a-i nvidia-kernel-source

Then a d-u will not pull the nvidia-dkms package in your system.

finotti

Post subject:

Posted: 26.05.2011, 20:29

Joined: 2010-09-12
Posts: 469

Status: Offline

Great. It works.

Does anyone know if it is safe to let "nvidia-common" go?

towo

Post subject:

Posted: 26.05.2011, 20:33

Joined: 2010-09-13
Posts: 516
Location: Pößneck / Thüringen
Status: Offline

It is safe.

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Code:

System:    Host: Defiant Kernel: 4.9.1-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Cinnamon 3.2.7

           Distro: siduction 13.2.0 December - xfce - (201312310323)

clubex

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Posted: 26.05.2011, 22:43

Joined: 2010-09-11
Posts: 100

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It's safe:

https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/nv ... +changelog

finotti

Post subject:

Posted: 27.05.2011, 11:45

Joined: 2010-09-12
Posts: 469

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Thanks towo (again) and clubex!

browe

Post subject:

Posted: 27.05.2011, 14:39

Joined: 2010-09-12
Posts: 157
Location: Canada
Status: Offline

Nice way to avoid dkms. I've always removed it after the fact, but avoiding installing it in the first place is a better solution.

Post subject:

Posted: 29.05.2011, 20:06

Joined: 2010-09-11
Posts: 61

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What is bad about dkms? At the moment I have both (probably inadvisable).

Code:

qpc$ dpkg -l | grep 'd.*kms'

ii  dkms                                        2.1.1.2-6                        Dynamic Kernel Module Support Framework

ii  dmakms                                      0.6.12                           Dynamic Module-Assistant Kernel Module Support

ii  nvidia-kernel-dkms                          270.41.19-1                      NVIDIA binary kernel module DKMS source

kelmo

Post subject:

Posted: 29.05.2011, 21:12

Joined: 2010-09-21
Posts: 15

Status: Offline

There's plenty of bullshit floating around about dkms vs dmakms, but for me the following is true:

* dmakms was working okay before dkms was in debian and being endorsed
* dmakms used the then de-facto standard for out-of-tree kernel modules: module-assistant
* dkms circumvents dpkg wrt installation of files in system areas on disk

Now one thing has changed recently which is important, module-assistant is not actively maintained in Debian (IIRC). There is a movement towards dkms because of this.

DeepDayze

Post subject:

Posted: 29.05.2011, 23:00

Joined: 2010-09-11
Posts: 616
Location: USA
Status: Offline

I use DKMS to build my vbox modules and haven't had an issue with it, so I am sure people will have their preferences in what module building service to use

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