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Post subject: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 24.06.2011, 13:31



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Hi, my iceweasel version from debian repo is still 3.6x. Will there be an upgrade any time soon, or do i have to add some other repo?
 
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Post subject: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 24.06.2011, 13:44
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Post subject: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 24.06.2011, 13:54
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http://glandium.org/blog/?p=2108

In other words it is coming to sid but there's no way to guess when.

It won't happen though at least until it has cleared the NEW queue (it introduces two new binary packages) but the optimist in me expects that should happen in the next few days which will put iceweasel 5.0 in experimental.

Once it reaches experimental who knows if the maintainer will instantly upload it to sid or wait some amount of time for those other packages to catch up. My guess is that it will be closer to instant then a month or more but he could well give them another week or two.

As always I'd suggest simply waiting for it to reach sid, but if you are really impatient, don't mind losing any iceweasel-l10n translations you might use, don't mind losing whatever other plugins or add-ons you have that might not be compatibile now and don't mind possibly having to mess about whenever it reaches sid then I'd suggest you at least wait for it to reach experimental and install it from there.
 
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Post subject: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 24.06.2011, 14:12
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5 worked great here, I am using 6 at the present

for 5 this is what I use and it works fine (your mileage may vary)

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Add-on Compatibility Reporter 0.8.5
BlackFox V1-Blue 1.3.3
Download Statusbar 0.9.8
FireFTP 1.99.4
Forecastfox Weather 2.0.2
Google Translator for Firefox 1.0.6
Is It Compatible? 0.4.20110114
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_26
MozPlugger 1.14.3 handles QuickTime and Windows Media Player Plugin 1.14.3
MR Tech Toolkit 6.0.4.9000
Nightly Tester Tools 3.1.7
NoScript 2.1.1.2rc7
Read It Later 2.1.1
Shockwave Flash
Tab Mix Plus 0.3.8.6
VLC Multimedia Plug-in
 
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Post subject: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 24.06.2011, 16:25



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Is Firefox waging a war of version numbers this year? This would make me somewhat sad, as I prefer a program that has a lower version number than competitors, but is as good or better than them. I would prefer that competitors who up their version numbers too fast, look stupid. Browser competition is good, but not an arms race in version numbers.
 
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Post subject: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 24.06.2011, 16:34



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I was also wondering about this. Are we in some degree unprotected with this old version? should we use chrome until iceweasel get its act together?
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 24.06.2011, 16:59



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      Lat wrote:
I was also wondering about this. Are we in some degree unprotected with this old version? should we use chrome until iceweasel get its act together?


You can also use real firefox if you want
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 24.06.2011, 17:37
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Yes firefox have decided to change the way they do version numbers and no the sid version shouldn't be "unprotected".
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 24.06.2011, 18:33
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      alexk wrote:
Is Firefox waging a war of version numbers this year?

Lets say that the Marketing Departement of Chrome started the war and mozilla "just" jumped on the train. Or maybe the internet explorer started the game - they are at 9 now, don't they? Who knows… and who cares?


I once had a discussion with a designer and marketing person who couldn't understand that big distributions like debian and ubuntu depend on its core on an application which hasn't reached 1.0 in much more than a decade (at the time of apt 0.7.25.something). He didn't asked for features or anything, he just asked for a roadmap to 1.0 release. He looked so puzzled then i told him that i personally have no roadmap for it… "maybe never?" Wink


It seems like numbers do transport some meaning - but is under a very big inflation. Maybe in a year or so applications will release version 10 after releasing version 1. And maybe at the time we reach version 10000 a software is usable…

(okay, binary speaking, 10 after 1 would be somewhat okay…)


P.S.: iceweasel obviously follows the firefox version scheme. And as long as versions released in unstable or above are concerned: They are covered by the usual debian security support (meaning 3.5 currently - not 3.6 or 4.0 as they never released with debian).

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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 24.06.2011, 21:16



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Thanks piper, works great.

Seems like the release cycle got a little bit to fast for the sid maintainer to keep up. I was just too impatient to wait any longer. All addons work without problems (firebug, download statusbar, downloadhelper and some others).

@bfree
With what kind of problems exactly will i have to mess about when it reaches sid? Doesn't it upgrade automatically to the latest version in sid repo after i simply disable the mozilla repo?

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Post subject: Re: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 25.06.2011, 03:24



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      piper wrote:
5 worked great here, I am using 6 at the present


G'day Piper,

experience any funkiness with 6?

I'm keen to check it out myself, (currently running 5).
 
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      piper wrote:
5 worked great here, I am using 6 at the present


G'day Piper,

experience any funkiness with 6?

I'm keen to check it out myself, (currently running 5).


Ay Mate,

It seems faster than 5 to me, scrolling needs some tuning up, thats seems slower than 5.

Out of the add-ons from my above post, IW complains that

Forecastfox Weather 2.0.2
Nightly Tester Tools 3.1.7
MR Tech Toolkit 6.0.4.9000

are incompatible, however, Forecastfox Weather 2.0.2 works fine.

I am going to test for one more day before I decide to revert back to 5 or not
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 25.06.2011, 09:18
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      piper wrote:
Out of the add-ons from my above post, IW complains that

Download Statusbar ( 0.9.8 ) doesn't really work (for me) even if it claims to support 6 and i heard it doesn't with 5, too.

(It doesn't show the downloadbar, but "the rest" seems to work)

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Post subject: Re: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 25.06.2011, 09:48



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      DonKult wrote:
Download Statusbar ( 0.9.8 ) doesn't really work (for me) even if it claims to support 6 and i heard it doesn't with 5, too.

(It doesn't show the downloadbar, but "the rest" seems to work)


Download Statusbar, ( 0.9.8 ) works for me with 5.

I have the addon bar selected as viewable, since 5, no longer has a status bar.

However, the download bar, is displayed independently and just above the addon bar.

Which means that a small portion of screen real estate is lost during the course of a download.

Why Mozilla, didn't just keep to the old status bar method, with a 'hideable' option is odd.

Still waiting on the local mirror, provided by my ISP to complete syncing so I can do a d-u, and get 6, (not to mention the recent KDE 4.6.4 upgrades).
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Iceweasel 5 any time soon?  PostPosted: 25.06.2011, 10:06
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      bfree wrote:
the sid version shouldn't be "unprotected".


It should not but it is not state of the art. Those fixes are missing:
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CVE-2011-0061, CVE-2011-2374, CVE-2011-2375, CVE-2011-2373,
CVE-2011-2372, CVE-2011-2371, CVE-2011-2366, CVE-2011-2367,
CVE-2011-2368, CVE-2011-2369, CVE-2011-2370.

http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/iceweasel_5.0-1.html

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