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Post subject: ntfs-config not working  PostPosted: 12.08.2011, 09:16



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I had installed ntfs-config. But when I click on it, and a window pop up asking for password, I keyed in the root password, and then there's nothing appear. Tried it many times.

And I tried to activate in console, here's the error message i got:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/ntfs-config", line 102, in <module>
main(args, opts)
File "/usr/bin/ntfs-config", line 75, in main
app = NtfsConfig()
File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/NtfsConfig/NtfsConfig.py", line 56, in __init__
os.mkdir(HAL_CONFIG_DIR)
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/hal/fdi/policy'
 
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Post subject: RE: ntfs-config not working  PostPosted: 12.08.2011, 10:06
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This is a Software problem and not related to our release as such, as it is not on the cd/dvd (moved -- if i could do it, but i can't).


The package itself is orphaned in debian:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/ntfs-config.html

Your error message as well as the bugreport #615210 suggest that it depends on HAL which is deprecated and on its way out of the archive.

But as suggested in the bugreport: Are you sure that you actually need this package (still)?


What is the usecase for you, maybe someone can suggests a replacement then.
(I can't, i don't use ntfs)

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 12.08.2011, 10:31



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I use drives with NTFS and I don't have ntfs-config installed. With the actual ntfs-3g it is not needed anymore. All my NTFS drives are mounted in read/write mode. External drives (attached via USB) are also automatically mounted in read/write mode.
 
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I had just installed aptosid imera xfce version in my laptop.

1. I have the impression when I use the brand new aptosid imera on my system for the past few hours (maybe I was wrong): When I first try to delete files from my ntfs partition in the hard drive, I cannot do it. I could read the ntfs partiton but I cannot delete files, or write files onto it (I dun have the delete option when I right click the mouse).

2. My first instinct as a intermediate Linux desktop newbie, is to install ntfs-config in order to write and/or delete data on my ntfs partition. But after I install ntfs-config, and try to access ntfs-config the app, I cant.

3. I install another graphical ntfs config app, the name of the app 'disk-manager', and I still cant write/ delete data on my ntfs partition. But after I fiddling with the option in the 'disk-manager' app, and apply the new option, I could finally could do that: read/ delete data on my ntfs partiton.

4. After I had found the 'solution' to the problem, I reported this 'bug' here. I dun noe what u wanna call it, a bug, or watever, but I consider it a problem. 'cause I dun encounter this when I am using debian, lmde, ubuntu or mint, which I cannot write on ntfs partition. If its not a bug in aptosid, then call it a 'little problem' or watever.

All I wanna do is to contribute something back to aptosid by reporting the problem I encounter while using aptosid, thats all.


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You don't need ntfs-config.
Simple edit your /etc/fstab for using ntfs-3g instead of ntfs.
 
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Its about giving the user choices. Some people prefer using graphical user interface, some other prefer using command line interface, some people like to use both.

If other desktop distro could use graphical user interface to deal with ntfs partition, I dun see why aptosid couldn't provide that too.
 
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I dun see why aptosid couldn't provide that too.

You do! Donkult told you the reason.
 
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      towo wrote:
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I dun see why aptosid couldn't provide that too.

You do! Donkult told you the reason.


No I don't. I see that LMDE and Debian testing, when I am using them, I have no problem writing to the NTFS parttion. So why aptosid couldn't do that?
 
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Aptosid can!
Use ntfs-3g, as you was told many times!
 
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      towo wrote:
Aptosid can!
Use ntfs-3g, as you was told many times!


I am talking about graphical user interface app to deal with ntfs partition. Not about editing /etc/fstab manually.

If ntfs-config doesn't work on aptosid, why the hell do u wanna put in the package system for? For show?
 
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Debian has ntfs-config in the repos, not aptosid!
And where is your problem?
You want ntfs-config, install it! Simple as is.
 
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      towo wrote:
Debian has ntfs-config in the repos, not aptosid!
And where is your problem?
You want ntfs-config, install it! Simple as is.


Yes, I had installed it in aptosid! BUT IT DOESN'T WORK IN APTOSID! SO I BRING IT UP! SO WHY AM I BEING CRUXIFIED FOR THIS?? U MEAN APTOSID DUN LIKE FEEDBACK??
 
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It is about choice - set up your system any way you would like.

You received an answer, you just don't seem to care for the answer. Why keep belaboring the point?

Your initial post asked about ntfs-config, then at some point you decided that aptosid should do something just because some other distro does it.

Personally, I think not writing by default is far safer for the average user. If you don't know how to change it, I would question whether you should have write access in the first place.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 12.08.2011, 15:28
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      zenist69 wrote:
U MEAN APTOSID DUN LIKE FEEDBACK??


We like feedback, but some things are completely out of our control.
That the package isn't actively maintained anymore for example, or that it is not ported to not-HAL usage. Even that you can still install it from debian even through it's now completely useless and broken.

If you feel better about it: As it stands so far this package will be removed soon from the debian archive, as it is no longer working and as others have said no longer needed.

aptosid is near the top of new versions incoming-stream, so it has this "problem" first, bust rest assured that other distributions will pick up this "problem" in short-, medium- or longterm, too (depending on their release cycle).

You know the "shit hits the fan"-expression? We just stand really damn close to this fan. Wink

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      ghstryder wrote:
It is about choice - set up your system any way you would like.

You received an answer, you just don't seem to care for the answer. Why keep belaboring the point?

Your initial post asked about ntfs-config, then at some point you decided that aptosid should do something just because some other distro does it.

Personally, I think not writing by default is far safer for the average user. If you don't know how to change it, I would question whether you should have write access in the first place.


I know that I could have write access to the ntfs partition via editing /etc/fstab. But thats not I am asking. I saw a 'problem' and I reported it. But the thing is not many view it as a 'problem' here.

Look, what are the usual gui ways to enable write access to ntfs? ntfs-config. Am I right to say that? So if thats down, shouldn't aptosid do something about it?

As for write access on ntfs drive for default, I didn't ask for that too. Nor requesting for that.

My initial point is to report the problem. And thats still my point even for now. I percieve this not able to use ntfs-config as a problem. And its what motivate me to write here. Not to ask for a solution to access the ntfs drive. I had find other gui way of doing that before I posted this thread starter here.

But if aptosid team dun find it an issue, that the user cant use ntfs-config to enable write access to ntfs drive, then, oh well, I had tried to voice out my concern. End of the day its up to aptosid team to decide.


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