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Post subject: Mounting ntfs drive as writable [SOLVED!]
Posted: 29.08.2011, 10:36
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I need to mount on boot a storage internal drive, which is formatted in ntfs, as writable.
I have read the Debian wiki page, but it is not clear for me, I think that I should modify /etc/fstab.
This is my fstab:
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UUID=51cf3db3-7d1b-4d0c-891d-efe0f46a791d / ext4 defaults,relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
UUID=53fe12d8-74ea-42c5-89b0-abaa53dc03fb none swap sw 0 0
UUID=EAE4971EE496EBD7 /media/disk2part1 ntfs auto,users,ro,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,nls=utf8 0 0
At present I can only access it read-only.
Also, for the ext4 bootable drive, shouldn't it be "realtime", instead of "relatime"?
I think this is just developer typo, should not be modified, right? |
Last edited by ckosloff on 30.08.2011, 15:26; edited 1 time in total
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Post subject: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 29.08.2011, 10:55
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ckosloff wrote:
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Also, for the ext4 bootable drive, shouldn't it be "realtime", instead of "relatime"?
I think this is just developer typo, should not be modified, right?
WRONG
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relatime - Update inode access times relative to modify or change time. Access time is only updated if the previous access time was earlier than the current modify or change time. (Similar to noatime, but doesn't break mutt or other applications that need to know if a file has been read since the last time it was modified.) Can help performance
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Post subject: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 29.08.2011, 15:40
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Post subject: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 29.08.2011, 15:41
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Post subject: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 29.08.2011, 16:15
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Package ntfs-3g installed, BTW it conflicts with ntfs-progs, it is one or the other.
Instructions from Debian wiki (for ntfs-3g) are:
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# mkdir /mnt/windows
# mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
Dir created successfully but getting this error, also in init 3:
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ckosloff@aptosiddino:~$ sux
Password:
root@aptosiddino:/home/ckosloff# mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows
Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which
could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
root@aptosiddino:/home/ckosloff#
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Post subject: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 30.08.2011, 03:19
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These are instructions from tuxera website to mount NTFS volume on boot:
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You can also make NTFS to be mounted during boot by adding the following line to the end of the /etc/fstab file:
/dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/
I of course replaced sda1 with sdb1.
Here is my modified fstab:
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UUID=66E700D429DAEEEE /media/disk1part1 ntfs auto,users,ro,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,nls=utf8 0 0
UUID=067be746-2ded-411c-ba21-1d1d7e4597aa none swap sw 0 0
UUID=b3b2bbdf-e402-4930-be57-98330fa9dca7 / ext4 defaults,relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
UUID=658BC7AE41BE5506 /media/disk3part1 ntfs auto,users,ro,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
But, same error on boot: Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
Some process is blocking the mount.
Please help, I really need this.
EDIT: I was writing this on different computers, first one has only one ntfs drive, second one has two, hence the dfference in numbering, but error is the same. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 30.08.2011, 04:27
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Erase the stuff you added.
Let's pretend that top line is your actual NTFS drive.
Change
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UUID=66E700D429DAEEEE /media/disk1part1 ntfs auto,users,ro,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,nls=utf8 0 0
to read
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UUID=66E700D429DAEEEE /media/disk1part1 ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 30.08.2011, 06:08
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ckosloff wrote:
... Some process is blocking the mount...
Yes, that happened because you tried to mount your device twice. What happened in your last two posts? When you entered the "mount -t" command in terminal to mount /dev/sdb1 to /mnt/windows, that device has already been mounted to /media/disk2part1 from your fstab furing boot. You should have entered "umount /dev/sdb1" first, like described here in Aptosid-Manual.
The same with your modified fstab, the first line mounted the same device to /media/disk1part1 that the last line wanted to mount to /mnt/windows. Remember to comment the line for mounting as ntfs with '#' before you enter the line ghstryder gave you, do not try to mount ntfs-devices twice. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 30.08.2011, 15:23
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OK, dudes, thanks so much for answer but...
after a night of sleeping with the problem spinning in my head, I figured it out.
So I just commented out offending lines, and voila!
This is what my new fstab looks like:
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# UUID=66E700D429DAEEEE /media/disk1part1 ntfs auto,users,ro,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,nls=utf8 0 0
UUID=067be746-2ded-411c-ba21-1d1d7e4597aa none swap sw 0 0
UUID=b3b2bbdf-e402-4930-be57-98330fa9dca7 / ext4 defaults,relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# UUID=658BC7AE41BE5506 /media/disk3part1 ntfs auto,users,ro,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
/dev/sdc1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
Maybe it is not the most elegant solution, because I see /mnt/windows in Dolphin's address bar, but, what the heck? it works!
Will test further later on and perfect the solution.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 30.08.2011, 15:27
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I had changed the ro to rw.
It works. rw-read/write.
simple, is not it?
Have a nice day.
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 30.08.2011, 16:25
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ckosloff wrote:
OK, dudes, thanks so much for answer but...
after a night of sleeping with the problem spinning in my head, I figured it out.
So I just commented out offending lines, and voila!
This is what my new fstab looks like:
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# UUID=66E700D429DAEEEE /media/disk1part1 ntfs auto,users,ro,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,nls=utf8 0 0
UUID=067be746-2ded-411c-ba21-1d1d7e4597aa none swap sw 0 0
UUID=b3b2bbdf-e402-4930-be57-98330fa9dca7 / ext4 defaults,relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# UUID=658BC7AE41BE5506 /media/disk3part1 ntfs auto,users,ro,dmask=0022,fmask=0133,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
/dev/sdc1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
Maybe it is not the most elegant solution, because I see /mnt/windows in Dolphin's address bar, but, what the heck? it works!
Will test further later on and perfect the solution.
Vielen dank!
It seems that you are pointing two disks (sdb1 and sdc1) to mount at the same point (/mnt/windows). This might give you troubles...
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 31.08.2011, 00:35
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OK dudes, those suggestions are really great and I will try both.
If changing to rw does the trick, then no ntfs-3g is needed.
Regarding the mount points, I will take that into consideration too.
What I did is only a preliminary fix to get the ball rolling.
Thank you all very much, I will sleep better tonight... |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 31.08.2011, 02:29
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Luis was right, having two drives mount at the same point did cause strange behaviours.
Good catch, Luis!
Apparently instructions on Tuxera's website are for only one drive.
Anyway, followed ghstryder's advice, commented out two last lines and modified the ones with the ntfs UUID to reflect ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
No more /mnt/windows and no more conflicts.
Not sure that to set drives to rw without ntfs-3g is good solution, everybody recommends using ntfs-3g instead, but have not tested that yet.
Maybe sometime later, too busy now finishing setting up systems on aptosid. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 04.09.2011, 16:08
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In new machinefor kid (Acer Aspire TimeLineX 5830T) I am also unable to write to NTFS partitions.Installed latest kde-Lite 64 bit today.
The rw works on my other ACERs and I do not remember doing anything
except the change to rw, with ntfs-3g.
Other machines have AMD boards, this has intel chips (with i3-2310M).
Funny, for the 1st time in my experience, no sound. And no kmix. Installing kmix. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Mounting ntfs drive as writable
Posted: 05.09.2011, 00:34
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Code:
UUID=067be746-2ded-411c-ba21-1d1d7e4597aa none swap sw 0 0
UUID=b3b2bbdf-e402-4930-be57-98330fa9dca7 / ext4 defaults,relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
UUID=66E700D429DAEEEE /media/disk1part1 ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
UUID=658BC7AE41BE5506 /media/disk3part1 ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
This my new fstab.
As you can see what I did is simply change the file system from ntfs to ntfs-3g, and set defaults to 0 0.
Of course you need ntfs-3g installed.
ntfs-3g is used by live Linux CDs to mount ntfs file systems, so I think that it is the way to go, not just changing ro to rw. |
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