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15 Post subject: [Solved] Upgrading wine  PostPosted: 29.06.2012, 13:06



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From a while, when I do dist-upgrade, I get:

      Code:

The following NEW packages will be instaled:
   libeveldb1 ...

The following packages have been kept back:
   wine
The following packages will be upgraded:
   aspell-ca, audacity...


But wine is not on hold:
      Code:
 dpkg --get-selections| grep wine
libwine                  install
libwine-alsa            install
libwine-bin               install
libwine-cms               install
libwine-gecko-unstable      install
libwine-gl               install
libwine-gphoto2            install
libwine-ldap               install
libwine-openal            install
libwine-print               install
libwine-sane               install
wine                        install
wine-bin               install
wine-doc               install

And
      Code:

apt-cache policy wine
wine:
  Installed: 1.2.3-0.3
  Candidate: 1.4.1-1
  Version table:
     1.4.1-1.1 0
          1 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/debian/ experimental/main amd64 Packages
     1.4.1-1 0
        500 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
 *** 1.2.3-0.3 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

I.e., there is a new version of wine trying to gain access my computer, but it cannot do.
Why?
The question is not rhetorical because I use wine a lot.

Best regards.

Luis_P


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Post subject: RE: Upgrading wine  PostPosted: 29.06.2012, 13:14



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http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2383
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 29.06.2012, 14:34



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Thanks, slh, for the information.

I've read the beginning of DonKult's post, but when I read the big and red warning: possibly breaking your system! I get away.

Then, I am into a dilemma: I need use wine, but I don't want break my system. What must I do?

Well, the world is not for timid people; therefore I will install i386 architecture. I suppose I can revert it if necessary. Will it be possible?

Will be continued.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 29.06.2012, 17:36



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Recent wine packages on amd64 require multi-arch, there is no alternative. Wine was one of the driving factors for multi-arch, because of the nastiness of its dependencies (ia32libs, which is now gone for good and replaced by pulling in the i386 packages directly via multi-arch).
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 29.06.2012, 21:18



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right - but not easy for apt-get
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 30.06.2012, 00:25



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It is not apt's job to configure the systems for multi-arch, that is a decision which has to be done manually by the system administrator. apt can just, based on the package interdepencies, try to avoid the big boom (not upgrading wine on itself, while not removing the old versions) before multi-arch is enabled - and try to recover once multi-arch has been enabled by the local administrator. If that fails, the involved packages and their stated dependencies are to be blamed, not apt.
 
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      Luis_P wrote:
I've read the beginning of DonKult's post, but when I read the big and red warning: possibly breaking your system! I get away.

Then, I am into a dilemma: I need use wine, but I don't want break my system. What must I do?


I have expanded the topic a bit, hopefully its clearer now what i meant. It is unlikely that you break your system behind repair - or at all - if you are careful. If you are just hitting Enter every time APT asks a question on the other hand …

It is also more likely that you will hit bugs in packaging given that this is new and many maintainers have to learn this. wine went through quiet a few iterations before it reached the current state - which works fine on my system for the record.

You are running an unstable, so you have to expect a few bugs here and there. If you are prepared for this, go ahead. With more time and more people using it the chance to hit a bug in this configuration will be as low as hitting a bug before MultiArch.

      Luis_P wrote:
Well, the world is not for timid people; therefore I will install i386 architecture. I suppose I can revert it if necessary. Will it be possible?


No, you can't (easily) revert that step. You have to remove all packages of the "foreign" architectures and only then you can remove the architecture from dpkg. Otherwise bad things will happen - but you don't want that anyway. MultiArch is the way to go, it is just the new kid on the block, so we have to be a bit more careful than usual before we all know each other better. Wink

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 02.07.2012, 10:02



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I've carried out i386 architecture and installed wine 1.4.1-1: all ran smoothly.

If I well understood it, the only package with "odd" architecture is now wine (and its brother wine-bin). If so, apt-get dist-upgrade will update also wine and only bugs on these packages can affect my system (affection due to new arch, I mean).

Thanks everybody for your support.

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