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Post subject: Also Kernel 3.12 fails to start  PostPosted: 04.11.2013, 18:04



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As I wrote, none of the 3.11 Kernels were starting on my machine. I hoped the update to Kernel 3.12 would solve the problem. I deleted the 3.11 Kernels, but that did not help.
3.10 bootes fine, but when booting with 3.12 the message "loading ... " does not appear and the computer stops.

Any ideas?

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Post subject: RE: Also Kernel 3.12 fails to start  PostPosted: 04.11.2013, 18:53



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Like already mentioned before, this is quite a bit too vague to comment upon. What you can try, is dropping the 'quiet' boot parameter from the kernel's cmdline. Doing so should give you more debugging info, which might help to identify the problem.

Given that you have an intel notebook with nvidia graphics, it might also be the case that the modeswitch invoked by loading the kernel support for your graphics card might misdetect the primary graphics card and switch over to the (dormant?) intel graphics. Try to find according firmware settings and/or test what happens if you also connect an external monitor and/or hit the monitor toggle hotkey.
 
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Post subject: RE: Also Kernel 3.12 fails to start  PostPosted: 05.11.2013, 12:32



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Thanx. I try that report and about the results.

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Post subject: RE: Also Kernel 3.12 fails to start  PostPosted: 10.11.2013, 13:40



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I removed the "quiet"-boot parameter, but it did not help, as it seems, that the very first steps in booting the 3.12 kernel are not reached. I get no messages!
Can there be something with the nvidia graphics, if everything works fie withe the 3.10 kernel and an updated aptosid?
Is it possible to erase and reinstall grub or is this to dangerous?
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 13.11.2013, 10:01



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Maybe you have the same problem:

http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... amp;t=2703

cheers

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 24.11.2013, 18:08



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Thank you debaba, but that seems not to be the problem. I reinstalled grub-pc and reconfigured it, which did not help. I removed the quiet parameter and get some output. Where do i find the output so i can post it here for analysing.



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Post subject:   PostPosted: 02.12.2013, 15:32



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My problem is still unsolved. Maybe this helps: After removing the quiet option, i see, that the startup-process ends with

IMA: No TPM chip found, activating TPM bypass

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 02.12.2013, 17:36



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If the tpm module is acting up (but that message is normal, happens on all systems without a tpm installed), it may timeout for up to 6 minutes - so please check if it makes a difference to let it sit for around 10 minutes.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 06.12.2013, 18:29



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Unfortunately, that did not work. I waited for about 30 minutes, but nothing happened.

Is there a way to completely remove the new kernel and install it from the scratch?

Thanx anyway

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Post subject: What are safe settings?  PostPosted: 01.01.2014, 19:50



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As I still need a solution for my boot problem, started the latest siduction live cd with a 3.12 Kernel. The standard Kernel did not boot, so i tried safe settings and the system booted. Maybe this is a hint for solving my problem? Does anyone know, what these safe settings are?

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Post subject: RE: What are safe settings?  PostPosted: 03.01.2014, 15:35



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In the meantime I found out, that linux mint and opensuse do not start with the standard kernel 3.11. opensuse starts with safe settings ore no acpi, siduction too starts with no local acpi.

Any ideas?

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15 Post subject: RE: What are safe settings?  PostPosted: 04.01.2014, 15:10



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acpi=off solves my problem.

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Post subject: RE: What are safe settings?  PostPosted: 04.01.2014, 22:23



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acpi=off is dangerous and must never be used, not even for temporary testing. Modern hardware absolutely hard-depends on ACPI being available. Disabling it not only disables any but the first core, it may also disable overtemperature safeguards and similar protection methods, which may result in physical/ permanent damage of your hardware.
 
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Post subject: RE: What are safe settings?  PostPosted: 05.01.2014, 15:27



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Yes, I learned, that this is only ther cause and not a solution. Sound, and other things are not working. So back to kernel 3.10.

Is there a chance, that kernel 3.13 is solving my problem?

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Post subject: RE: What are safe settings?  PostPosted: 05.01.2014, 17:21



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There is always a chance, but given that I'm lacking information what actually fails, it's pure guesswork.
 
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