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Post subject: KDE 4.11  PostPosted: 06.11.2013, 18:29



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debian-qt-kde is currently uploading the first parts of KDE 4.11 to unstable. While it should be rather eventless (compared to KDE 4.8 --> KDE 4.10 before), it is suggested to err on the side of caution and be careful with dist-upgrades at the moment (ideally avoid it alltogether for the next 4-5 days).
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE 4.11  PostPosted: 10.11.2013, 20:02



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First I am happy, for getting of KDe 4.11! Very Happy

What is the reason for early upload of KDE 4.11 to unstable?

I assumed that, KDE 4.11.5 will be uploaded, but not earlier correction versions. Cool
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE 4.11  PostPosted: 11.11.2013, 18:29



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The KDE 4.11.3 upload should now be almost complete, pending some binNMUs for kde-style and plasma-widget packages. While there my be successive uploads for some leaf components, the majority of packages is now available.
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE 4.11  PostPosted: 12.11.2013, 10:35



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Did a complete DU this morning, KDE 4.11.3, really nothing traumatic at this end, went very smoothly.
no complaints or problems after some hours of use. Cool
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE 4.11  PostPosted: 12.11.2013, 15:10



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After DU I can't mount cd in dolphin. the notifier shows "removable media of O byte". The problem is partially solved if I launch K3b, then i can access to properly mounted medias in Dolphin.
Running AMD64 KDE. I have both udisks and udisks2 installed. Automatic mounting is enabled in notifier.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 12.11.2013, 16:13



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I'll wait until the problems with removed and kept back packages are solved:

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Status information is read .... finished
Package upgrade (upgrade ) is calculated ... finished
The following packages will be REMOVED :
[b]  kde- plasma -desktop kde -window-manager kde -workspace libtaskmanager4abi3[/b]
The following NEW packages will be installed :
  kde-base -artwork libepub0 libkipi11 libktorrent5 libkwineffects1abi5 libkwinglutils1abi2 liblivemedia16 libnepomukwidgets4abi1 libokularcore3 libplasmaclock4abi4 libproxy1
  libtaskmanager4abi4 libudisks2 -0 libx264 -140 libxcb- image0 libxcb- sync0 libzip2 linux- headers- 3.12 0.slh.1 - aptosid -686 linux-image- 3.12 0.slh.1 - aptosid -686 udisks2
[b]The following packages have been kept back :
  system settings[/b]
The following packages will be upgraded (upgrade ) :
  akonadi -backend -sqlite akonadi -server ark at- spi2 -core bash-completion busybox console-setup console-setup -linux cpp -4.7 cpp -4.8 debconf debconf- utils debhelper
  distro -defaults dolphin dtv -scan tables freespacenotifier g+ + -4.7 g+ + -4.8 gcc -4.7 gcc -4.7 -base gcc -4.8 gcc -4.8 -base git git -man glib -networking glib -networking -services
  google-chrome -stable gwenview hostname init -system- helpers initramfs-tools kate -data katepart kcalc kde-base apps apps kde-base -bin kde- base- apps -data kde- l10n -de kde -runtime
  kde -runtime -data kde-style -oxygen kde -wallpapers -default kde -workspace -bin kde -workspace -data kde -workspace- kgreet -plugins kdebase -runtime kdelibs -bin kdelibs5 -data
  kdepasswd kdelibs5 -plugins kdepim -runtime kdepimlibs - kio -plugins kdm kdoctools kexec-tools keyboard-configuration kfind khelpcenter4 clipper kmix konqueror console kppp
  ksnapshot ksysguard ksysguardd ktorrent ktorrent -data kwrite libakonadi - calendar4 libakonadi - contact4 libakonadi - kabc4 libakonadi - kcal4 libakonadi -kde4 - libakonadi kmime4
  libakonadi - notes4 libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libapr1 libaprutil1 libasan0 libatomic1 libatspi2.0 -0 libbasicusageenvironment0 libc -bin libc-dev -bin libc6 libc6 -dev libc6- i686
  libdrm - intel1 libdrm libdrm - nouveau2 - radeon1 libdrm2 libdvbpsi9 libelf1 libexttextcat - 2.0-0 -data libexttextcat libgcc -4.7 -dev libgcc -4.8- dev libgcc1 libgeoip1 libgfortran3
  libgomp1 libgroupsock1 libgstreamer -plugins- base1.0 libgstreamer1.0 -0 -0 - libitm1 libkabc4 libkactivities 'm libkactivities - Models1 libkactivities6 libkalarmcal2
  libkatepartinterfaces4 libkcal4 libkcalcore4 libkcalutils4 libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkcompactdisc4 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecore5 libkdesu5 libkdeui5
  libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkephal4abi1 libkfile4 libkholidays4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkimap4 libkio5 libkipi -data libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkldap4
  libkmbox4 libkmediaplayer4 libkmime4 libknewstuff2 -4 -4 libknewstuff3 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkonq -common -templates libkonq5 libkonq5abi1 libkonqsidebarplugin4a
  libkparts4 libkpimidentities4 libkpimtextedit4 libkpimutils4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkresources4 libkrosscore4 libksane -data libksane0 libkscreensaver5 libksgrd4
  libksignalplotter4 libktexteditor4 libktorrent -l10n libkunitconversion4 libkutils4 libkworkspace4abi2 libkxmlrpcclient4 libmailtransport4 libmicroblog4 libnepomuk4
  libnepomukcore4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 libp11 - kit0 libphonon4 libplasma - geolocation - interface4 libplasma3 libplasmagenericshell4 libpopt0 libprocesscore4abi1
  libprocessui4a libqtruby4shared2 libqtwebkit4 libquadmath0 libselinux1 libsmbclient libsmokebase3 libsmokekdecore4 -3 -3 libsmokekdeui4 libsmokekfile3 libsmokekhtml3
  libsmokekio3 libsmokeknewstuff2 -3 -3 libsmokeknewstuff3 libsmokekparts3 libsmokektexteditor3 libsmokekutils3 libsmokenepomuk3 libsmokeplasma3 libsmokeqtcore4 -3
  libsmokeqtdbus4 libsmokeqtgui4 -3 -3 -3 libsmokeqtnetwork4 libsmokeqtopengl4 -3 -3 libsmokeqtsql4 libsmokeqtsvg4 libsmokeqtwebkit4 -3 -3 -3 libsmokeqtxml4 libsmokesolid3 libsolid4
  libsoprano4 libspice server1 - libstdc + + -4.8- dev libstdc + +6 libstdc + +6-4.7 -dev libsyndication4 libtag1 -vanilla libtag1c2a libthreadweaver4 libusageenvironment1 libva -x11 -1
  libva1 libvlc5 libvlccore7 libwbclient0 libweather ion6 libwpg - 2 -0.2- linux- headers- aptosid -686 linux-image- aptosid -686 linux-libc -dev locales make multiarch-support
  nepomuk -core -data core -runtime - nepomuk ocular openssh-client openssh-server patch oxygen - icon-theme phonon phonon-backend -gstreamer -data engines plasma -workspace plasma -desktop
  Plasma desktop themes -artwork plasma scriptengine - javascript plasma -script -python plasma -ruby script engine plasma engine- webkit -script -script engines plasma-
  plasma-widget -folder view plasma -widgets -workspace pm-utils python- kde4 python -sip quassel quassel -data -kde4 ruby ruby ruby- qt4 plasma- ruby- qt4 -webkit samba-common samba- libs
  smbclient tar soprano -daemon vlc vlc -data vlc- nox wget xserver -xorg- video-nouveau
272 upgraded , 20 newly installed, 4 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives or of 313 MB .
After this operation, 133 MB disk space will be used .
Would you like to continue? [ Y / n ]


Kind regards
polix
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 13.11.2013, 03:06



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I double checked what Phileom said about CD's and DVD's as well.
its true, Auto detection seems to be non functional...
Both K3b and Kaffeine can see and utilize the discs.. but auto detection and any notification of the presence of a disc in the drawer is not present... function is OK and sound works, just not detection. Dolphin sees the disc only after it is available by K3b and Kaffeine.
My bad for not seeing it earlier.
Note: The device notifier sees it once mounted with Kaffeine Or K3b, kind of after the fact device notifier. Further testing reveals that the device notifier is activated by the application K3b and not by Kaffeine, Kaffeine can not detect DVD without first launching K3b. Device notifier can eject CD or DVD once it has its presence by K3b detection. but can not detect it once DVD or CD is ejected and reinserted by closing the drawer with CD or DVD inserted. Only K3b generates a detection as far as I can tell.
 
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Post subject: No window manager  PostPosted: 14.11.2013, 11:55



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I just did an dist-upgrade and now I do not have a window manager in KDE any longer. That means:

- Windows do not have the standard top-bar any more with close/maximize/minimize buttons and the possibility to move them or change their size.

- All the menus of a program do not work

- I cannot change between windows (eg with ALT + TAB)

- Dropdown menus in a webpage with iceweasel do not work

There are much more things that make KDE unusable. In the systemsettings the option to change the window style and manager misses completely.

What do I have to do to get the window management back?


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Post subject: RE: No window manager  PostPosted: 14.11.2013, 13:50



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Maybe I also have to say: I changed the window manager in the systemsetting because I liked the look of another one better. I cannot remember to what I canged it.

At the dist-upgrade there were some packages shown that were to be removed. I looked into this forum to see if the upgrade was save. This thread told me it is so I did it.

Maybe just some basic questions:

- Is it possible to reverse a dist-upgrade?

- Is there an apt logfile to see what has when been updated/installed/removed?
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: No window manager  PostPosted: 14.11.2013, 15:16
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      Superdigi wrote:
- Is it possible to reverse a dist-upgrade?

No
      Superdigi wrote:
- Is there an apt logfile to see what has when been updated/installed/removed?

Yes, in /var/log/apt you should find everything you want, probably just in the history.log
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 15.11.2013, 08:18



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I waited until yesterday before a big D-U. Can confirm what others have said about the detection of CD/DVD not working. You are aslo left with a phantom "0 MB Removeable device" in Dolphin and the notifier. Is this a result of udisks2 being installed, rather than a KDE bug?
 
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15 Post subject: [SOLVED] Missing Window manager problem is solved  PostPosted: 15.11.2013, 20:35



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Tank you bfree!

In the /var/log/apt/history.log I found what has been removed with my dist-upgrade. Today I re-installed the packages:

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apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop kde-window-manager kde-workspace


Now everything works fine again.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.11.2013, 14:52



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Is the removing of this two packages not dangerous for KDE 4.11.3?

      Code:

Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  libkdecorations4abi1 libtaskmanager4abi3


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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.11.2013, 21:40



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      polix wrote:
Is the removing of this two packages not dangerous for KDE 4.11.3?

      Code:

Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  libkdecorations4abi1 libtaskmanager4abi3


Regards
polix



I don't think so, as, if you look at new packages to be installed, there seems to be new versions of those.

I am sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong... (I DUed and haven't seen a problem yet...)
 
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15 Post subject:   PostPosted: 19.11.2013, 10:03



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      Code:
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  libkdecorations4abi1 libtaskmanager4abi3


I've found newest libtaskmanager4abi3-version in the upgrade list, and decided to make d-u.

As I see it: no problems, no freezes,no crashes at the moment. Smile

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