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Post subject: KDE Transition 5.6.x (2016-06)  PostPosted: 01.06.2016, 06:22



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It seems that Sid is transitioning to Plasma 5.6 (and other related parts are also being updated). Although it's been quiet here, I've been seeing some packages to be removed...

      Code:

root@t510[/home/finotti]# apt full-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  kactivities kde-config-touchpad kde-plasma-desktop kde-touchpad libkf5screen6
  plasma-desktop plasma-systray-legacy
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kdegames-mahjongg-data-kf5 libgrantlee-templates5 libkf5calendarevents5 libkf5kdegames7
  libkf5kmahjongglib5 libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7 libkscreenlocker5 libpoppler61
  linux-headers-4.6.0-0.slh.3-aptosid-amd64 linux-image-4.6.0-0.slh.3-aptosid-amd64
The following packages will be upgraded:
  ark at-spi2-core bluedevil breeze breeze-cursor-theme breeze-icon-theme chromium
  chromium-l10n comerr-dev console-setup console-setup-linux cpp cpp-5 cups-filters
  cups-filters-core-drivers dh-strip-nondeterminism dolphin e2fslibs e2fsprogs
  fonts-opensymbol g++ g++-5 gcc gcc-5 gcc-5-base gcc-5-base:i386 gfortran gfortran-5
  gir1.2-gtk-3.0 grep gtk-update-icon-cache gwenview icedove init init-system-helpers
  inkscape kate kate5-data kbattleship kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data kde-config-gtk-style
  kde-style-breeze kde-style-breeze-qt4 kde-style-oxygen kde-style-oxygen-qt4
  kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kdegames-card-data-kf5 kdeplasma-addons-data keyboard-configuration
  khelpcenter khelpcenter4 khotkeys khotkeys-data kinfocenter kio-extras kio-extras-data
  kmahjongg knavalbattle konsole konsole-kpart kpat krdc kscreen ksysguard ksysguard-data
  ksysguardd kuser kwalletmanager kwin-style-breeze kwrite libaio1 libaio1:i386 libapr1
  libasan2 libatk-bridge2.0-0 libatspi2.0-0 libbasicusageenvironment1 libcapture-tiny-perl
  libcomerr2 libcomerr2:i386 libcupsfilters-dev libcupsfilters1 libdebconfclient0
  libdolphinvcs5 libfile-stripnondeterminism-perl libfontembed1 libgail-3-0 libgcc-5-dev
  libgcj-common libgcj16 libgfortran-5-dev libgnutls-openssl27 libgnutls30 libgnutls30:i386
  libgroupsock8 libgssapi-krb5-2 libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 libgssrpc4 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin
  libgtk-3-common libhsqldb-java libiec61883-0 libinput-bin libinput10 libisl15 libk5crypto3
  libk5crypto3:i386 libkcompactdisc4 libkdb5-8 libkf5activities5 libkf5baloowidgets5
  libkf5kdelibs4support-data libkf5kdelibs4support5 libkf5kdelibs4support5-bin
  libkf5khtml-bin libkf5khtml-data libkf5khtml5 libkf5networkmanagerqt6 libkf5plasma5
  libkf5plasmaquick5 libkf5runner5 libkf5sysguard-bin libkf5sysguard-data libkpathsea6
  libkrb5-3 libkrb5-3:i386 libkrb5support0 libkrb5support0:i386 libksgrd7 libksignalplotter7
  libkworkspace5-5 liblivemedia52 libmediastreamer-base3 libmpfr4 libmpx0 libnghttp2-14
  libortp9 liboxygenstyle5-5 liboxygenstyleconfig5-5 libpam-systemd libpcsclite1
  libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler-qt4-4 libpoppler-qt5-1
  libpowerdevilcore2 libpowerdevilui5 libprocesscore7 libprocessui7 libptexenc1 libqt4-dbus
  libqt4-dbus:i386 libqt4-declarative libqt4-designer libqt4-dev libqt4-dev-bin libqt4-help
  libqt4-network libqt4-network:i386 libqt4-opengl libqt4-opengl:i386 libqt4-qt3support
  libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg
  libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqt4-xml:i386 libqt4-xmlpatterns libqt4-xmlpatterns:i386
  libqtcore4 libqtcore4:i386 libqtdbus4 libqtdbus4:i386 libqtgui4 libqtgui4:i386 libreoffice
  libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
  libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core
  libreoffice-draw libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common
  libreoffice-kde libreoffice-math libreoffice-report-builder-bin libreoffice-style-galaxy
  libreoffice-writer libruby2.3 libseccomp2 libss2 libstdc++-5-dev libsynctex1 libsystemd0
  libsystemd0:i386 libtaskmanager5 libtbb2 libtexlua52 libtexluajit2 libtheora0
  libtheora0:i386 libudev-dev libudev1 libudev1:i386 libunistring0 libusageenvironment3
  libvlc5 libvlccore8 libweather-ion7 linux-headers-aptosid-amd64 linux-image-aptosid-amd64
  linux-libc-dev mercurial mercurial-common milou mplayer2 oxygen-sounds pcscd
  plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-framework plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons
  plasma-widgets-addons plasma-workspace poppler-utils powerdevil powerdevil-data
  python-dnspython python-kde4 python-matplotlib python-matplotlib-data python-numpy
  python-urllib3 python3-matplotlib python3-numpy python3-uno qdbus
  qml-module-org-kde-extensionplugin qml-module-qtquick-controls-styles-breeze qmmp
  qt4-linguist-tools qt4-qmake qt4-qtconfig qtcore4-l10n ruby2.3 sddm-theme-breeze ssl-cert
  systemd systemd-sysv systemsettings texlive-binaries udev uno-libs3 ure vlc vlc-data
  vlc-nox vorbis-tools xpdf xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
270 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 7 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/506 MB of archives.
After this operation, 142 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.


I've seen some discussion on the Siduction (which also follows Sid) forum here: http://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=6224.0

I've already seen some small problems with my last update a while ago, although I am not sure it is related, but my Emacs launch icon became invisible (it's still there, but I can only see the space between other icons) and in Konsole the cursor seems to appear in the wrong place. (The fix for this last one was to change the font.)

I tried a DU in a virtual machine, and had some problems, like the window decorations (and borders) would not appear and some "black boxes" where menus and other things should appear. But this virtual machine did have some problems before (it is hard to do a new install with the old installation ISOs), so maybe is also not related. (Some, in the Siduction discussion, seem to have DUed with no problems.)

Due to work responsibilities, I will not be able to do a full DU until mid July, so I likely won't be able to report on the progress here, but hopefully someone will.

Anyway, just a heads up.
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 01.06.2016, 14:40



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Thanks for sharing these notes. I also have my linuxbox on hold for moving. Following anyway with interest Laughing
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 07.06.2016, 18:18



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OK, I tried the update in my laptop and everything seems to be working well. Some meta packages were removed (kde-complete, I think...) and a lib that was updated to newer version. I haven't had much time working with it, but so far so good. I am not sure if it was necessary, but I've installed "plasma-integration".

Maybe I will wait a little longer to mark as solved, but it does seem that all is safe do DU.
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 07.06.2016, 18:36



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kde-l10n-* is still missing, while not a killer, it's something to be aware of.
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 12.06.2016, 09:11



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Not so lucky here. Did dist-upgrade today without errors, but plasma-desktop removed and not upgraded. I can login in a sort of kde desktop with no plasma Sad .
Trying to install plasma-desktop, system says this:
      Code:
sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 plasma-desktop : Depends: kactivitymanagerd but it is not going to be installed


Trying to install kactivitymanagerd:
      Code:
sudo apt-get install kactivitymanagerd
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  akregator k3b kactivities kaddressbook kde-runtime kdepim-runtime kmail
  knotes korganizer ksnapshot libcalendarsupport4 libeventviews4
  libincidenceeditorsng4 libkactivities-bin libkactivities6 libkdepim4
  libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkleo4 libksieveui4 libmailcommon4                         
  libmailimporter4 libmessagecomposer4 libmessagecore4 libmessagelist4
  libmessageviewer4 libnoteshared4 libpimcommon4 libtemplateparser4 okular
  soundkonverter
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kactivitymanagerd
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 30 to remove and 2 not upgraded.


Stopped here, not sure make sense go on ...
Any hint how to unlock this situation ?
Thanks

Noted in addition that the issue could be plasma-desktop-data, that stayed at older version
      Code:
 apt-cache policy plasma-desktop-data
plasma-desktop-data:
  Installed: 4:5.4.3-1
  Candidate: 4:5.6.4-2
  Version table:
     4:5.6.4-2 500
        500 http://http.debian.net/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
 *** 4:5.4.3-1 100
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 12.06.2016, 20:13



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plasma-desktop is needed and installable, just remove "everything" (with a little care, of course) in its way.
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 13.06.2016, 15:19



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Thanks slh, I will give a trial later.
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 13.06.2016, 16:48



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OK worked - needed to remove and to add some packages, but nothing so complex .

Wow, kde 5.6.4 seems very nice and responsiveness.
Laughing
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 14.06.2016, 16:59



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It's not working for me, though...
Relied on your post and let parts of kde disappear, but now I ended up in a situation where plasma-desktop can not be installed Sad
My attempt ended up in the need to install qtbase-abi-5-5-1, but apt resists do install that.
On the other hand I read that this should be part of libqt5core5a which is installed.

I'm kind of helpless now - anyone having a clue?
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 14.06.2016, 17:10



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The problem simply is that you waited too long, yesterday afternoon the qt5 transition for 5.5.1-->5.6.1 started - making all packages depending on qt5 uninstallable until it has finished.
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 15.06.2016, 02:07



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The qt5 transition should be through now, at least on amd64, so you can now try to reinstall plasma-desktop.
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 15.06.2016, 12:39



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Thank you. Managed to reinstall plasma-desktop now, but something must be missing now as I'm not able to maximize items like the control bar or the application windows. What am I missing?
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 15.06.2016, 13:35



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You could try to install either kde-full or kde-standard, as they should pull all you need. (Or do is with the option -s to simulate and see what packages seem important that you are missing.) Just a thought.
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 15.06.2016, 15:03



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Decided to install kde-standard, which really drew a number of packages. Yet, the problem isn't solved...I still can't maximize or background/foreground windows and the task bar is still only about a fifth of the total screen width and the option "maximize task bar" is ignored.
Must have lost an important packet when I dist-upgraded yesterday. Anything else you'd recommend?
 
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Post subject: RE: KDE Transition  PostPosted: 15.06.2016, 15:28



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You could take a look at /var/log/dpkg.log and see what was removed during the failed DU.
 
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