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Post subject: [solved] python-sip removes python-qt4, calibre, etc.
 Posted: 25.02.2011, 08:15
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(amd64)
Today's new python-sip (4.12.1-1) wants to remove python-qt4,
in my case also calibre, which depends python-qt4.
I think python-qt4 needs to depends <sip-api-8.0>.
(for now <sip-api-7.0>)
I'll hold python-sip until python-qt4 gets new version. |
Last edited by muchan on 02.03.2011, 08:06; edited 1 time in total
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Post subject: RE: 2011-02-25 python-sip removes python-qt4, calibre, etc.
Posted: 26.02.2011, 09:56
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problem is not solved. but I noticed, on my i386 system,
python-sip is automatically held at dist-upgrade.
(I can't confirm it on amd64, because it's on other location)
if I try "apt-get install -s python-sip", it would still remove
python-qt4 and calibre. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: 2011-02-25 python-sip removes python-qt4, calibre, e
Posted: 26.02.2011, 21:05
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muchan wrote:
I noticed, on my i386 system,
python-sip is automatically held at dist-upgrade.
On mine too. Can someone briefly explain us why? |
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Posted: 27.02.2011, 17:59
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Code:
# apt-get dist-upgrade -d
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The following packages will be REMOVED:
plasma-scriptengine-python python-kde4 python-qt4
no hold here on amd64. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: 2011-02-25 python-sip removes python-qt4, calibre, e
Posted: 27.02.2011, 18:30
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nh2 wrote:
muchan wrote:
I noticed, on my i386 system,
python-sip is automatically held at dist-upgrade.
On mine too. Can someone briefly explain us why?
I did it in the german offspin of this thread: http://aptosid.de/index.php?name=PNphpB ... &t=671
In short: The decisions APT makes depend on your system: If more packages depend on python-qt4 than on python-sip the decision is different to the reverse situation. So it happens that for some APT decides to hold the package back while for others it decides to upgrade the package (and therefore remove the ones that can't cope with the new one). |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: 2011-02-25 python-sip removes python-qt4, calibr
Posted: 27.02.2011, 18:46
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Interesting, but on my i386 and amd64, both python-qt4 and calibre are only packages
that would be removed when python-sip is upgrade... so mistery remains... |
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Posted: 27.02.2011, 19:49
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detaos wrote:
Code:
# apt-get dist-upgrade -d
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The following packages will be REMOVED:
plasma-scriptengine-python python-kde4 python-qt4
no hold here on amd64.
I have the same packages here that want to be removed. I am also on amd64. No packages on hold either. |
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DonKult
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: 2011-02-25 python-sip removes python-qt4, calibr
Posted: 27.02.2011, 19:55
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Code:
apt-get dist-upgrade -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=1 -s
No mystery. Its more complicated than noted above: Recommends/Suggests come into play, as well as priority and the scores of the first-level reverse-dependencies… Its easiest to apply a "just don't care" marker as its hard to describe the exact behavior of the resolver with all its cornercases.
If APT decides to hold something back you are just "lucky" in this case (in many other cases you are unlucky - which occurs more likely in bigger dist-upgrades). If it decides to remove them - my bad. Just hold it yourself if you care or wait a bit longer.
APT asks if its okay what it has decided surely because it isn't unfailable, so some decisions can be wrong and its your job to decide if its okay. The simplification for you is just that you just need to check the proposed solution - you don't need to work out a solution on your own. So if you don't like the solution don't accept the solution and wait.
(And yes, finding a solution is much harder than deciding if a solution is okay. Every idiot can check if a solved sudoku is correctly solved (if he knows the rules), but not everyone can find a solution to a given sudoku problem.)
And for the record: "My" APT holds it back.  |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: 2011-02-25 python-sip removes python-qt4, ca
Posted: 27.02.2011, 20:53
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: 2011-02-25 python-sip removes python-qt4, ca
Posted: 27.02.2011, 21:12
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slam wrote:
DonKult wrote:
...Every idiot can check if a solved sudoku is correctly solved (if he knows the rules), but not everyone can find a solution to a given sudoku problem....
That's why he is the apt man, trust him.
Oh dear, the "trust him" argument… |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: 2011-02-25 python-sip removes python-qt4, ca
Posted: 28.02.2011, 16:39
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DonKult wrote:
slam wrote:
DonKult wrote:
...Every idiot can check if a solved sudoku is correctly solved (if he knows the rules), but not everyone can find a solution to a given sudoku problem....
That's why he is the apt man, trust him.
Oh dear, the " trust him" argument…
 shit happens ....  |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: 2011-02-25 python-sip removes python-qt4, ca
Posted: 28.02.2011, 20:17
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DonKult wrote:
Code:
apt-get dist-upgrade -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=1 -s
And for the record: "My" APT holds it back.
Mine is on hold too. (32bit)
Thanks for all the work you have done to help us with APT.
I personally read your posts, when I have time, even if it does not relate to a specific problem I am having. I learn something every time. Thanks
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Posted: 01.03.2011, 23:22
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Hello, I have the same problem
but the listed pde line won't solve the problem on my AMD64-Aptosid.
Code:
root@BLECHTROTTEL:/home/alemi/quatsch/alevt-1.6.2# apt-get dist-upgrade -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=1 -s
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig
Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet... Starting
Starting 2
Investigating (0) python-qt4 [ amd64 ] <4> ( python )
Broken python-qt4:amd64 Hängt ab von on sip-api-7.1 [ amd64 ] <none> ( none )
Considering python-sip:amd64 4 as a solution to python-qt4:amd64 6
Added python-sip:amd64 to the remove list
Fixing python-qt4:amd64 via keep of python-sip:amd64
Try to Re-Instate (0) python-sip:amd64
Done
Fertig
Die folgenden Pakete sind zurückgehalten worden:
python-sip
0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 1 nicht aktualisiert.
root@BLECHTROTTEL:/home/alemi/quatsch/alevt-1.6.2#
Sorry for the German answers of Aptosid, but my default language is German, since I was hacking my playpen  and Linux does, what you tell him.
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Posted: 02.03.2011, 08:05
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This morning, new python-qt4 depending new sip-api-8.1 arrived.
So python-sip can now be installed without conflict.
marked "solved". |
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Posted: 04.03.2011, 21:49
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| When I try to update python-sip/python-qt4 it will remove plasma-scriptengine-python, plasma-scriptengines, python-kde4 and synce-kpm. |
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