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15 Post subject: [solved]Annoying Orage popup  PostPosted: 01.02.2011, 18:05



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A search on "Orage" turned up nothing, which means the answer to this is probably simple, but I do not have it.

In a nutshell when I start aptosid the Orage configuration window and the Orage calendar start in the middle of the screen. It is simple enough to click ad close them, but I cannot find the setting that prevents the auto-start behavior in the first place.

Obviously there is a way. Would somebody please share the answer?

And thank you!


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Post subject:   PostPosted: 01.02.2011, 22:14



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Maybe this could be of use
http://www.kolumbus.fi/~w408237/orage/orage_doc.html#calendar-menu-bar
or this
http://www.digipedia.pl/man/doc/view/orage.1/
or even this? I used it to find the first two Smile
http://www.google.com
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 01.02.2011, 22:27



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Thanks for the help! Google is my standby, but I think that this time I searched the forum on the assumption that somebody running aptosid-Xfce knew how to solve the problem.

In any event I'll follow those links and thank you for them.

Seems odd that such a simple thing has to be so mysterious.

But then again a lot of things mystify me, come to think about it.
 
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i have it only in german, but try it to translate:
orage -> settings
second tab (displays?)
bottom -> calendar at start -> hide
 
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Gerd, thank you. I am not on aptosid at the moment, but I'll have a look shortly.
 
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      ragupo wrote:


Good link. I have no use for Orage, but unfortunately I can't purge it, as it will also purge all xfce desktop. Annoying thing.
 
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Hmmm, that is odd catalinus. I was not able to make several of the suggestions work. I decided that before going any further there might be some merit to just removing and reinstalling Orage. Then perhaps those suggestions might do what their authors adised.

So I did "apt-get purge Orage" as I recall. Orage went away and my Xfce is still here. (2010-3) Now I still have calendar and date showing in my systray. I show time and if I move the mouse pointer over it I show day and date as well.

I must confess I was surprised and that is all I really need. So Orage may just stay away until something convinces me I need to put it back.

If I do your suggestion probably will work. I am going to call this "solved." If anybody else has a similar problem the answer is in one of these responses.

Thanks for responding!
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 04.02.2011, 20:45



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      Code:
# apt-get --purge remove orage
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  orage* xfce4*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
After this operation, 5,366 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?


Odd or not, but orage wants to also purge xfce.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 04.02.2011, 21:31



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catalinus you have fallen into the hands of a rank beginner!

Seeing is believing. But for the heck of it try this and see what the output says:

apt-get -s purge orage

I think I used "purge" instead of "purge remove" I checked "man apt-get" and "-s" is a switch meaning "simulate". I tested it and it works.

So is there a difference between "purge" and "purge remove"? Might be.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 04.02.2011, 21:51
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"--purge remove" and "purge" are same. See "man apt-get".
(there wasn't "purge" command, once it was "remove with --purge option.)

The package "xfce" is a metapackage to install all of xfce4 suites.
It "depends" on orage, so that orage will be installed with meta-package,
but removing the xfce4 meta-package does not remove the XFCE4 desktop environment.
See "apt-cache show xfce4" and "apt-cache depends xfce4"
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 05.02.2011, 05:55



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Thank you muchan, that makes some sense out of it. Debian has voluminous documentation on apt and aptitude, but I have to admit I have trouble holding it in my head. So the man page is where I do go. But I missed the point you are making with regard to "purge".

What I know is that I did remove Orage without disturbing anything else.

In my opinion (worth a cold cup of coffee I assume) Orage is a badly designed application. It just should not so difficult to configure and manage it. If that has to be done at the cli that's fine, but I could not understand what I thought was the relevant Xfce documentation.

So did I "solve" the problem? Well I suppose in a sense I did. If I need what Orage does I'll go looking for something else with which to do it.
 
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