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Post subject:   PostPosted: 08.10.2010, 23:11



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      Lanzi wrote:
You know what really bugs me on KDE 4.5?

In Krusader, copying a lot of files for backup-reasons, you could until now decide between "overwirte file" and "overwrite all". Now there is a checkbox "apply to all" and then you click overwrite. Its (another) click more (like for such a lot of applications in KDE4), but also you have to find a really small field, instead of a switch before.
This is really annoying clicking twice!


It's interesting to see things go this way, i.e. additional clicks.

I was of the impression that one of the design principles for KDE 4.x was to lessen the number of clicks required to perform a given task where possible.

I mentioned this briefly in an earlier post but the change in layout of the System settings tool, to me is indicative of this apparent change in thinking.
 
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      spacepenguin wrote:
BTW: My KDE SC 4.5.1 was relatively slow and unstable, especially dolphin that crashed a lot times a day. I have now dared to install the dbus and libdbus-1-3 packages from experimental (own risk) and dolphin is more responsive and a lot more stable. Improves KDE 4.5.1 feeling a lot. http://randomguy3.wordpress.com/2010/06 ... ng-issues/


Groovy, I'll give it a try.

Thanks for posting the tip.

As an aside, does anyone know of an updated plasma-widget-quickaccess .deb. The one provided from Xadra's repo doesn't like 4.5.1

Cheers.
 
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Post subject: quickaccess widget  PostPosted: 09.10.2010, 15:24



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      merlyn wrote:
As an aside, does anyone know of an updated plasma-widget-quickaccess .deb. The one provided from Xadra's repo doesn't like 4.5.1


I have patched the sources so that it works with 4.5.1 - could provide my quickndirty checkinstall deb...

http://www.materialordner.de/Vh2j1UlUWu ... YRk2V.html - stays there for 48 hours and max. 25 downloads.

Or you could modify the sources by yourself and compile them.

http://launchpadlibrarian.net/55388877/ ... ess.h.diff
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/55388819/ ... s.cpp.diff

I took a look at the altered trash widget and used the same method that was applied to its sources and was somehow surprised to see it actually work (I don't understand anything from those sources and coding). Now I only need someone to make something official out of it - nobody seems to maintain that widget anymore?

BTW: What happend to Xadras? Not active anymore in these fields?

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Post subject: Re: quickaccess widget  PostPosted: 10.10.2010, 00:05



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      spacepenguin wrote:
I have patched the sources so that it works with 4.5.1 - could provide my quickndirty checkinstall deb...


Cheers, thanks for that.

      spacepenguin wrote:
Or you could modify the sources by yourself and compile them.

http://launchpadlibrarian.net/55388877/ ... ess.h.diff
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/55388819/ ... s.cpp.diff

I took a look at the altered trash widget and used the same method that was applied to its sources and was somehow surprised to see it actually work (I don't understand anything from those sources and coding). Now I only need someone to make something official out of it - nobody seems to maintain that widget anymore?


Unfortunately this is a little out of my skill set. My coding abilities, or lack thereof are limited to little used and rudimentary html/php.

Also from the listings for this plasmoid on KDE-look.org there has been no maintenance activity for some time, even the "maintenance fork".
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: quickaccess widget  PostPosted: 17.10.2010, 22:41



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i'm downloading 4.5.2 from experimental snapshot right now.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: quickaccess widget  PostPosted: 18.10.2010, 04:39



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are you sure?
topic on #debian-kde still advertises 4.5.1.
could it be that its just kdelibs thats updated?
will check later.

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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: quickaccess widget  PostPosted: 18.10.2010, 07:52



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      devil wrote:
are you sure?
topic on #debian-kde still advertises 4.5.1.
could it be that its just kdelibs thats updated?
will check later.

greetz
devil


I just installed 4.5.2, the topic is not updated.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: quickaccess widget  PostPosted: 18.10.2010, 12:51



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4.5.2 is not in the normal Debian repos.
      Code:
kdebase-bin:
  Installed: 4:4.4.5-1
  Candidate: 4:4.4.5-1
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.4.5-1 0
        500 http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages

libkio5:
  Installed: 4:4.4.5-1
  Candidate: 4:4.4.5-1
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.4.5-1 0
        500 http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages

kdebase-bin:
  Installed: 4:4.4.5-1
  Candidate: 4:4.4.5-1
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.4.5-1 0
        500 http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

kdebase-runtime:
  Installed: 4:4.4.5-1
  Candidate: 4:4.4.5-1
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.4.5-1 0
        500 http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

dolphin:
  Installed: 4:4.4.5-1
  Candidate: 4:4.4.5-1
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.4.5-1 0
        500 http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages

konqueror:
  Installed: 4:4.4.5-1
  Candidate: 4:4.4.5-1
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.4.5-1 0
        500 http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

kdebase-data:
  Installed: 4:4.4.5-1
  Candidate: 4:4.4.5-1
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.4.5-1 0
        500 http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages



Also some package may have higher version numbers without the entire set of KDE packages being that version.
For example:
apt-cache policy korganizer
korganizer:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:4.4.6-1
Version table:
4:4.4.6-1 0
500 http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages

kdepim:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 4:4.4.6-1
Version table:
4:4.4.6-1 0
500 http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages

Also QT package versions do not reflect KDE package versions.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: quickaccess widget  PostPosted: 18.10.2010, 12:57



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4.5.2 will not be in normal debian repos, neither will probably be 4.6.x
as debian is in deep freeze, noone cares much for 4.5.x, as it will not be in Squeeze.
people rather fix bugs in 4.4.x to make it perfect for Squeeze.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.10.2010, 13:03



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As said by belze, the updated packages are in the experimental-snapshots repo:


      Code:
root@sidbox:/home/don# apt-cache policy dolphin
dolphin:
  Installed: 4:4.5.1-0r2
  Candidate: 4:4.5.1-0r2
  Version table:
 *** 4:4.5.1-0r2 0
        101 http://qt-kde.debian.net/debian/ experimental-snapshots/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     4:4.4.5-1 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages


"About KDE" does say 4.5.2.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: 18.10.2010, 13:09



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yes, but it was just a partial update, and i doubt there will be more.

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      BelaLugosi wrote:
      Mte90 wrote:
but kde 4.5.2?

pardon, what are you trying to ask?

i ask if in the repos qt-kde.debian receive the kde 4.5.2.

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      Mte90 wrote:
i ask if in the repos qt-kde.debian receive the kde 4.5.2.


Yes they do but only partial:

      Code:
ii  kdelibs-bin                                 4:4.5.2-0r1                  core executables for KDE Applications
ii  kdelibs5                                    4:4.5.2-0r1                  transitional package for the KDE Development Platform libraries
ii  kdelibs5-data                               4:4.5.2-0r1                  core shared data for all KDE Applications
ii  kdelibs5-plugins                            4:4.5.2-0r1                  core plugins for KDE Applications
ii  kdoctools                                   4:4.5.2-0r1                  various tools for accessing application documentation
ii  libkatepartinterfaces4                      4:4.5.2-0r1                  the kate part library
ii  libkcmutils4                                4:4.5.2-0r1                  utility classes for using KCM modules
ii  libkde3support4                             4:4.5.2-0r1                  the KDE 3 Support Library for the KDE 4 Platform
ii  libkdecore5                                 4:4.5.2-0r1                  the KDE Platform Core Library
ii  libkdesu5                                   4:4.5.2-0r1                  the Console-mode Authentication Library for the KDE Platform
ii  libkdeui5                                   4:4.5.2-0r1                  the KDE Platform User Interface Library
ii  libkdewebkit5                               4:4.5.2-0r1                  the KDE WebKit Library
ii  libkdnssd4                                  4:4.5.2-0r1                  the DNS-SD Protocol Library for the KDE Platform
ii  libkemoticons4                              4:4.5.2-0r1                  utility classes to deal with emoticon themes
ii  libkfile4                                   4:4.5.2-0r1                  the File Selection Dialog Library for KDE Platform
ii  libkhtml5                                   4:4.5.2-0r1                  the KHTML Web Content Rendering Engine
ii  libkidletime4                               4:4.5.2-0r1                  library to provide information about idle time
ii  libkimproxy4                                4:4.5.2-0r1                  the Instant Messaging Interface Library for the KDE Platform
ii  libkio5                                     4:4.5.2-0r1                  the Network-enabled File Management Library for the KDE Platform
ii  libkjsapi4                                  4:4.5.2-0r1                  the KJS API Library for the KDE Development Platform
ii  libkjsembed4                                4:4.5.2-0r1                  library for binding JavaScript objects to QObjects
ii  libkmediaplayer4                            4:4.5.2-0r1                  the KMediaPlayer Interface for the KDE Platform
ii  libknewstuff2-4                             4:4.5.2-0r1                  the "Get Hot New Stuff" v2 Library for the KDE Platform
ii  libknewstuff3-4                             4:4.5.2-0r1                  the "Get Hot New Stuff" v3 Library for the KDE Platform
ii  libknotifyconfig4                           4:4.5.2-0r1                  library for configuring KDE Notifications
ii  libkntlm4                                   4:4.5.2-0r1                  the NTLM Authentication Library for the KDE Platform
ii  libkparts4                                  4:4.5.2-0r1                  the Framework for the KDE Platform Graphical Components
ii  libkprintutils4                             4:4.5.2-0r1                  utility classes to deal with printing
ii  libkpty4                                    4:4.5.2-0r1                  the Pseudo Terminal Library for the KDE Platform
ii  libkrosscore4                               4:4.5.2-0r1                  the Kross Core Library
ii  libkrossui4                                 4:4.5.2-0r1                  the Kross UI Library
ii  libktexteditor4                             4:4.5.2-0r1                  the KTextEditor interfaces for the KDE Platform
ii  libkunitconversion4                         4:4.5.2-0r1                  the Unit Conversion library for the KDE Platform
ii  libkutils4                                  4:4.5.2-0r1                  dummy transitional library
ii  libnepomuk4                                 4:4.5.2-0r1                  the Nepomuk Meta Data Library
ii  libnepomukquery4a                           4:4.5.2-0r1                  the Nepomuk Query Library for the KDE Platform
ii  libplasma3                                  4:4.5.2-0r1                  the Plasma Library for the KDE Platform
ii  libsolid4                                   4:4.5.2-0r1                  Solid Library for KDE Platform
ii  libthreadweaver4                            4:4.5.2-0r1                  the ThreadWeaver Library for the KDE Platform
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: quickaccess widget  PostPosted: 19.10.2010, 08:13



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      monkeynuts wrote:
4.5.2 is not in the normal Debian repos.

sure, indeed this thread is about kde 4.5 unofficial repo, and was talking about that repo, not the official debian sid.
Anyway, not such a great upgrade from the end-user point of view...
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: quickaccess widget  PostPosted: 19.10.2010, 16:00



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Yes the kde 4.5.2 packages are not all there yet..will wait to see if anymore get uploaded before testing
 
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